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Originally posted by moonwalk98 on the Ventilxp.com forums, here:
Originally posted by moonwalk98 on the Ventilxp.com forums, here:
He describes the performance of the Peugeot version of the pipes, but the Motobecane version of the pipes have very similar performance characteristics.
'''- G1 Ninja:'''
'''- G1 Ninja:'''

Revision as of 16:53, 14 December 2008

Originally posted by moonwalk98 on the Ventilxp.com forums, here: http://www.ventilxp.com/forumv2.1/viewtopic.php?t=5071&sid=05cd6109cca7dc1534c49269dcf496e1 He describes the performance of the Peugeot version of the pipes, but the Motobecane version of the pipes have very similar performance characteristics.

- G1 Ninja:


new price: More with the sale

This pot is one of the first long pot from ninja, it is famous to agree rather high in the turns, by forsaking the low modes… It is approved, rather noisy and relatively not very aesthetic… a pot which thus does not appear bad for kits 50, but not terrible for the cylinders of origin or the kit of diameter 46…

- G2 Ninja (commercial):


New price: Approximately 130 euros

“Successor” of the ninja g1, this pot is simply excellent has high mode, with the proviso of having what to exploit it Indeed… this pot agrees very high in the turns, and rows in the low modes! It is thus disadvised assembling it on a cylinder origin and a diameter 46, has to hold ONLY for the good inflated diam 40. Aesthetic level it is very pretty, on the other hand with regard to sonority, it is relatively noisy and makes a noise of pan… This pot thus remains a very good pot for kit 50 good exploited, on the other hand its price remains relatively high compared to other pots of “high less expensive mode”…

G3 ninja:


New price: approximately 110 euros

This pot has in fact nothing has to see with the category g3 (simple strategy marketing for better selling lol), it is most recent of the pots of the firm ninja and it is especially more succeeds. Indeed, the g1 and g2 lacked sin low has mode, the g3 catches up with this variation while wanting to be flexible low has mode, extremely nervous in recovery and very good in high mode! This pot thus plays the chart of the versatility! It can agree very well with a kit 50 (very good high mode and not badly in bottom has!), a diam 46 (a good compromi offers!) that with an origin (less advised, but relatively effective…). At the aesthetic level, its original form will not plairra has everyone and discredits it can be with the eyes of certain mobeurs (has twists…), but it is a style to which I adhere (personal opinion…). When with the tariff, it is one of the pots the least expensive, lower than the bidalot rr, Doppler, ninja g2, etc… to finish, the sonority of this pot is exceptional, a beautiful noise engraves and fatty as one will like to more often hear it (has mode low) but who deafens oneself joliement in the turns! Cartridge absorption of origin. An excellent investment!

- Gianelli Black Gun:


New price: approximately 85 euros

This pot is without any doubt one of the pots which agrees highest, it offers a high excellent mode with kits 50 also supporting the high modes such as the malossi (excellent combination) for example… It is also very good with other kits 50 supporting in high mode, the problem remains that it appears exaggeratedly hollow in bottom and miserly in recoveries… This pot is really disadvised with a kit diameter 46, any possible agreement, and relatively means on origin… On the level of the price it is more than resonnable, priding to be one on the pots honnereux… noise Level, it is relatively noisy (passable all the same) and classic, it does not have a particular stamp… To conclude, an excellent pot for little which one agrees to sacrifice the low modes, unless one has a pulley clutch of mark, of a good vario etc…

- Conti crx:


New price: approximately 95 euros

This pot east enfait the counterpart exact of the gianneli black gun, it is just more expensive (because of notoriety of conti in the world of the mécaboite)

- Doppler ER1:


New price: approximately 140 euros

This pot is one of best on the market because it is one of the rare pots length has to agree relatively low while preserving perf has high modes correct! Indeed, this pot agrees to perfection with a cylinder of origin but also with a kit diameter 46 with which it shoed wonders! It also proves to be a good compromise with the kits 50 which have for defaults to miss gouache in bottom, thing that this pot is given the responsability to rectify (default perfs a little less honourable have high mode… but Ca remains very correct). At the aesthetic level, this pot finds being relatively pretty (all is a question of taste)! On the other hand, sonority is rather noisy and hollow, very unpleasant I find… Moreover rockwool has to change very regularly under penalty of a rather unbearable increase in the decibels… To conclude, this pot is the best than one can find for cylinder of origin and kit 75, it also proves to be a good compromise for kits 50… the only big problem resides in its very high price…

- Bidalot rr:


New price: approximately 110 euros

Let us be clear from the start: this pot is not “worthy” of the mark Bidalot, I am explained. For a relatively high price, price does not offer incredible performances, not terrible in bottom, passable in top, offering suitable recoveries, this pot does not deserve its price. It offers perf quelqonque with a cylinder of origin (approximately +10 km/h), has evil has to agree with a kit 50 (rather not badly in the average modes…) and hardly does not appear better with a kit diameter 46… Same granted to kit 50 of the same name (bidalot rr), this pot works less although the ninja g3 for example… seek the error! Moreover, the cartridge is attached is extrement shitting has to unsling, which can push has to invest in a cartridge unslung “carbon” which is not given… (useless to specify that without unslinging the cartridge, this pot proves to be a calf…). Aesthetic level, this pot is rather pleasant because original compared to the others (it is not style rolled/welded but of the style 2 shells not welded) but especially because it is equipped with famous the blue cartouche bidalot… This pot is rather noisy and releases one sonoritée particuliere, rather acute which will not like has all the world. To summarize, this pot does not deserve absolutely an investment of your share, same coupled with the kit of the same name… a great disappointment for me Laughing

- Bidalot RP:


New price: approximately 150 euros (of + in + difficult has to find)

With this pot, Bidalot arrives has to show that it is not forcing in the west as regards pot (as with the rr). Indeed, this pot of excellent is qualitée, it offers performances really epoustouflantes (an acceleration enormous follow-up of an excellent point! Phenomenal recoveries has high modes!) with very large kits 50 such as the prepared rr, g1, g2 because it agrees very high (+ 12000/tr min, the commercial pot which agrees it + high! =)! Useless to specify that this pot is not useful strictly has nothing on a cylinder origin which will be able by no means to exploit it, as on one 75 which does not correspond at all since being mainly turned towards bottoms and average modes… aesthetic Niveau, this pot is splendid, a nearly perfect line equipped with a long silencer (absorption) of any beauty! On the noise level, this pot is extremely noisy but pleasant… Pas problem thus with the countryside but a little bit plsu tended downtown… To conclude, this pot is the best than you can find (if you still find it… the production were stopped there is little) for little that you had a large kit 50! If it is not the case go your way…

- Kenji has pump:


New price: approximately 75 euros

This pot has a characteristic compared to the others: its pump! It agrees has wonder with a cylinder of origin because this pot agrees very low, it offers a demensielle acceleration and an average point! For kits 75, this pot is also the best for acceleration pure, it agrees has wonder! On the other hand, with kits 50, this pot agrees rather badly because it under exploits too much the high modes… the attached latter feeling! At the aesthetic level it is enough bizar, personally I do not hang to the style, the cartridge is riveted (and attached occasion consequently, to repurchase an emergency absorption!) and the system of pump can practical (oil escape, fragile…). On the level its, it adopts a pleasant sonority, not too high, slightly serious… To conclude, this pot is perfect for which seeks the maximum of acceleration and low mode, perfect for the city, pot however appears its limits has high mode or it does not defend a whole well…

- Leovinci speed aluminum:


New price: approximately 90 euros

C´est a bottom-of-the-range pot: well for small the budget, he exploits especially top speed, same if that is not obvious… Once unslung, one gains can be 5 km/h, and by changing the cartridge (yes c´est really a cartridge of m ****, baffles), can be 10 km/h. The supports are with the elbow, between the pot and the cartridge, and with the same cartridge it. To summarize, c´est a cheap pot, (well? ) for the cylinder origin, but once passed for the kit one needs l´oublier…