ring gap tool

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/80514/10002/-1

does anyone know about this?

does anyone use this?

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I've never been able to justify shelling out the cash for one, but if I ever had the space for an actual shop I probably would

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Yeah, same, I would say that if I had to build a couple v8s with two or three rings per cylinder every year I would buy one pretty darn quick.

I have a tiny little tungsten file that I use for moped rings that is quick and precise. Even those diamond fingernail files, the higher-end ones, work pretty well.

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From experience , jewelers files and a small vise work a charm for the occasional gap adjustment . ;)

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🦺🥇b to the MOPO 🚨🚨🚨 eff /

I use a very nice Swiss jeweler's needle file (that I already had for jewelry stuff). I believe it's a #6 (173 cuts / inch).

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I wonder if you could do something like that with a Dremel in a vice with a large cutting disk on it.

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> Jay Rivett wrote:

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> I wonder if you could do something like that with a Dremel in a vice

> with a large cutting disk on it.

Sure , make it a complicated ordeal . LOL

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EH 📣FCC of the QCB /

Ya what everyone said. I wanted one just because…but the amount you usually have to remove from a moped Ru g I could never justify buying one.

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I'm taking bets that the new malossi 43 mm vespa kit which comes with the rings installed is already perfectly gapped to 0.172 mm. I'm measuring them with my main mentor at noon. I have a nasty habit of breaking then removing or installing.

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oh man, so on dual ring pistons the rings should not be gapped the same.

top ring should be .25mm and bottom ring should be .30mm or .010” for the top ring and .012” for the bottom ring.

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If this is totally wrong ( off the moped army wiki) could you please let me know where your info comes from. I'm not saying that you're not correct I'm just asking for some validation before I go and do anything cuz I am going up in less than an hour this afternoon to get the rings gaped on this 43 kit.

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from that same page:

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43 mm = 1.69"

1.69" x .004" = .00676"

.00676" in mm = 0.172mm. For the top. The lower following what I see on the internet is .005% and thus is greater. I calculate 0.214mm.

Is this correct for a 2 ring piston ?

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https://www.wiseco.com/PDFs/Manuals/RingEndGap.pdf

a good read from the fine people at wiseco

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> Marc Friedman wrote:

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> 43 mm = 1.69"

>

> 1.69" x .004" = .00676"

>

> .00676" in mm = 0.172mm. For the top. The lower following what I see on

> the internet is .005% and thus is greater. I calculate 0.214mm.

>

> Is this correct for a 2 ring piston ?

so the math would be

top ring:

.006” x 1.6929” = 0.0102” rounding up.

a .010” feeler gauge is used to verify here.

bottom ring;

.007” x 1.6929” = 0.0119” rounding up.

a .012” feeler gauge is used to verify here

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Ok I see what you are saying. I'll ask Bobby. See what he says. So far my s..t works with my smaller tolerances probably because I am not riding enough and long enough at any one time to find out!

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check out the wiseco link, it has different specs for different applications that give for a better understanding of gap size vs application.

it also says don’t do smaller then .010” for a ring gap so there’s that too and i’m pretty sure wiseco makes smaller displacement pistons as well

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it’s sick they also show the tool from this thread.

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> LSLB RXb wrote:

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> check out the wiseco link, it has different specs for different

> applications that give for a better understanding of gap size vs

> application.

>

> it also says don’t do smaller then .010” for a ring gap so there’s that

> too and i’m pretty sure wiseco makes smaller displacement pistons as

> well

whoops had to read it twice. the .010” minimum gap they spec is for the oil rail, which 2-strokes do not have.

still you’d end up with .076” for the top ring and .093” for the bottom ring if you use the “high performance street” specs

they also mention that having a bottom ring with a bigger gap is important to reduce ring flutter

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Ok so as expected malossi gaped the rings correctly. At least .174 top and .2 mm lower ring.

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And super thanks for everyone's help btw. As soon as I clean up the motorcycle lift I'm going to replace the kit with this one.

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> Marc Friedman wrote:

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> Ok so as expected malossi gaped the rings correctly. At least .174 top

> and .2 mm lower ring.

malossi unmatched quality

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Exactly!!

While you are at it go check out the new polini e bike motors...completely rebuildable. All the other majors ...nyet to fixing.

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