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It's just a simple plug and play with those clutches then? I mean the obvious stuff you did aside. No welding on anything for it to go into the bike tho?

I just grabbed a tighter spring for my stock gear. But if this gear eats it then I will look at the jammer for sure!

it's basically plug and play besides the mods I listed.

So last night, i went into my transmission to try out the heavier rate springs and see how everything looked/felt and i didn't take any pictures.

I was getting some vibration that I wasn't really liking and knew something had to be up in there. Turns out, I had shimmed my kickstart shaft a bit too much. I saw wear on both the shim and top circlip, so I swapped out for a thinner shim and all the vibration was gone...pretty tight. I bet my case cover bearings are almost smoked already from that shit though. Maybe next time i replace them, I'll try out a nice high grade 608 bearing instead of just whatever my local bearing shop sells me. The tiny little guy does spin 1:1 with the crank so like...it can't hurt to have a good bearing in there.

but ok, i put the medium 1.6mm thick springs in and they are just...OK. its not much better then with the 1.5mm thick springs. If i go WOT on take off, the bike revs higher for a second, then the RPMS drop down to about where the clutch engages with the 1.5mm springs and the bike takes off. If i go like 1/4 to 1/2 throttle on take off, the bike revs higher, holds the revs and the clutch engages without the RPM drop. Kinda crappy, not desirable in my opinon.

I'm gonna try out some scooter clutch springs and see if I have any success with them. I'll update this post with info as I find it.

My old first gear was those same $33 shoes from treats with the same 9.5lb green spring and it performed very well. It was only a little worse then the jammer with lightest rate springs.

anyways, thanks for coming to my ted talk.

update: i think the springs are breaking in & i like them more. i’m still gonna order some malossi springs & give them a shot

i’ve got the malossi springs on the way, i have a feeling the white ones are gonna fucking rock.

i will update when they arrive. & maybe also put some pictures in here

Rad let us know!

got the springs. put them on. they are pretty good! better than what i had before for sure!

here are some pics.

That seat is amazing!

I thought it looked like it was off late 70s st/trail motorcycle.

so ok, i’ll admit this isn’t jammer related, but does anyone else use pin gauges to mic their jets?

i’ve started & everything seems to read .01mm smaller then the size. like a 76 jet will be .75mm. but a different stamped 76 jet is .76mm. cool & fun stuff when you are tuning a sha where you have 1 jet.

next up, slide #9. it rocks. fully opens your sha. i went from being rich at a .74mm 75 jet on a #2 slide (same cutaway as a number #9 but longer) to like maybe a hair lean. i’m gonna try a .75mm 76 jet & i have a .76mm 76 jet to try next. pretty exciting

I have identical setup on my tomos other than doppler reed . anyhow I cannot get my sha to run rich. I've tried #68-78 and still get the same behavior out of my 64cc a35 engine super warm but light plug chop

s. so I'm at a wtf moment. so I decided to turn stator off the top advance mark ccw a public hair to cool the engine slightly. because I've got zero airleaks runs strong low to mid to top all the way thruuu just stays on hot lean an flustered with it.

Leave the airbox as it is and start pulling out screens from your filter pack. I usually leave 2 screens in and it makes the needed air flow while also stopping debris.

You can also notch your slide a little. I will take a pic of my notched slide and see if I can tell ya what number it is. I feel like it has a pretty steep ramp at the bottom of it.

cool & fun update.

i’ve replaced 2nd gear clutch pads & have gone back to the jammer with middle tightness stock springs.

2nd gear locks up much nicer now. i was having issues getting into 2nd gear smoothly with the malossi white springs & i think it was all just my 2nd gear shoes. i’m gonna have to swap back to the white springs just to check, but the bike is severely as is now.

i also added an adhesive neodymium magnet to the bottom of my clutch cover. it works great!

yup i went back to the white jammer springs. my clutch cover gasket finally broke, so i replaced it and i reshimmed my intermediary gear. this bike now absolutely fucking rocks.

the best part is that it’s all bolt on parts. no case match, no porting, nothing whacky or wild outside of getting the gears lathed down, which you 100% don’t really need to do unless you have a homie with a lathe.

i’ve gone back to the middle rate springs that came with the clutch. the engagement was too erratic & was giving me problems getting into 2nd gear.

i would say that you should get those malossi springs & you’ll 100% find something that works. the whites are probably engaging at like 6500rpm & they are the lowest strength in that pack. if i made more rpms, i would probably like the white springs more.

all of this really makes me long for a 2nd gear with easily tunable springs like the jammer to play with. maybe some day

Just wanted to come back and say huge thanks for the Malossi spring tip. They are AMAZING. The white springs almost completely eliminated the bog shifting into 2nd, and now it only dips to 6300ish rpm after shifting instead of 5500, so you were very close with your guess of 6500. Going to test the yellow springs but they might be too much for normal riding, its already pretty close to an on/off switch for power delivery and doesnt like going much under 30mph. I am very close to being able to always be on the pipe at WOT, which is a ton of fun.

Bike is a monster, power wheelies even with the extended wheelbase and extra rake. Had it up to 65 already but think it can do 75. Might get a video this weekend.