MOPED ARMY

The best mod is removing starter shoes and the giant steel plate, and welding the bell to the hub.

Then run only 2 leaf springs with springs holding the ends down. Easy 6k engagement.

Honestly the best. It’s launchy af

Yussss Jbot! Keep it coming, I’d love to see all the hacks people have came up with!

I had a REALLY hard time finding any info on the stock variator, let’s use this thread to turn that around

Oh you have to weld some vari pins into the bell because they were in the starter shoe plate you had to cut off

Yes, I do show how to make a shim for it, and it is imo the best stock mod. Its not in the video but later that night we tried it on a kitted av7 with an ER3, and it was worlds better then just the stock spring

Yeah, nice, I've never built an av10 but stock ported or kitted av7 I've always had pretty good luck with the stock vari with the 4/2 ball guide. A few washers on the spring either way to fine tune.

I like the way a well tuned av7 rides, it will take most basic ass bikes off the line and kicks down to a nice low cruising gear on top. I think the roller guide is gonna be a game changer, mine just got delivered a couple hours ago but that bike is about 4 deep in the project queue, so it will probably be a few months before I get to actually try it out

Thanks for re-igniting this interest in me. I guess. Damnit. I had absolutely no plans to touch my moby and now here I am taking apart the variator because I couldn't exactly remember what all I had done. I really haven't messed with this bike that much since all the mods I did in 2014-15. I only occasionally get it running to race at MopedGP, just a distant afterthought to my other race bike.

Appreciate the shout-outs in the vid! Can't take any credit though, I definitely had only half assed followed what Jbot did. Back when he was modding the moby variator in that thread "Slipper clutch lever on Moby stock clutch" I had just started messing with my moby and following along. I also did the stock moby aux ports from "Hey Dummy! Let's get all Aux ex' n shit"

Between Jbot and Rebel Moby is how I did all my moby mods. I had decided to keep all 4 clutch pads and cut them down by about a half inch and tack them much further up the sides to control their travel. This was following Rebels method of adding a rivet, except tack welding was much easier and modifiable to me. It slips... ok. I'm now considering removing 2 pads completely to see what happens, and from there may explore the springs like Jbot did if I'm still not satisfied.

I removed the starter shoes but had stopped short of removing the whole plate assembly and welding in the shaft and posts. I think I'll do that now.

While I'm at it I plotted out 6 - 1" holes to be cut to lighten the clutch drum.

If you weld the bell to the hub, add a lil steel shim material before you weld to center the fit between the bell and hub to keep everything true

I’m gonna ride that moby tomorrow.

Been awhile. I changed tire profiles and have to down gear cuz the new tires are taller than my worn out gazelle I had on the rear

That bike is a whole lotta crazy.

Where is warisesi on this thread?

Thanks Nik, that explains a lot, it's been awhile since I had one of these apart and I don't remember, I'm going to be working on a 1978 50v, guess I'll find out when I get it opened up if that's 'early' or 'late'

first off let me say I appreciate your method of explanation, but even with those ceramic balls, aren't you still a bit heavy? I see you are running 4 balls, 2 stock and 2 of the ceramic, the stock balls are 10g each, meaning 20g total in your vario, before the weight of the other balls, I think that the 7.5g balls im running (stock Peugeot variator starter balls) are to heavy, weighing in at 15g as Im only running 2, once I get my roller cage, I think my magic number will be 12g

OR are your other balls just dirty and all 4 are ceramic? CLEAN YOUR BALLS JAKE

that said I think I am also gonna tack weld those plates, Im waiting for my roller cage to arrive, as I see Graham's has already arrived, it seems USPS does not like me as much as him! once I get that I'll be digging into it some more, hopefully Friday as I have most of this week off (edited)

Yeah, them balls are just dirty. All of them are ceramic. There is a thin layer of moly grease over all the rolling spinny bits, I cleaned one ball off to show that it was the white ceramic.

I don't recall how much the ceramic balls weigh, that would be good info for ya. I gave my my dad my drug scale because he smokes more weed than I do. I'll have to try to remember to bring them to work to weigh.

Blue scooty springs pics

The only thing with thicker springs is you gotta recess the hole on the leaf spring pad so the clutch spring doesn’t get ground down by the clutch bell. Not too hard, I’d prefer a recessed solution I haven’t come up with yet.

But it would be super cool to just throw some modded hobbit or derbi shoes or moby starter shoes on the flat part of the clutch plate by adding a few pivot pins and stops and get rid of the leaf springs entirely. That would be my next thing. Though this works great. I’m in the power in 1 second on flats

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