I just tuned in a gila puch with vm20 and davinci and its absolutely wild, I love that pipe as much as a bk100, maybe more. Most of my experience with mlm previously was just bk100 and I always loved them, but end bleed not side bleed. Rode a gila magnum w side bleed that didn't impress me as much but believe it was the tune. Oh, I had a rev run way back when and it was rad on a treats reed with vm18. 55mph. People's pipes mostly suck.