Re: 10 hp from a Kinetic TFR moped?

Graham Motzing /
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my 'moped butt dyno' = about 15 years of comparing peoples posted dyno results from the forum and the speeds those bikes actually run- compared with seeing some of the builds in person, compared with other shit i know from motorcycle tuning:

single speed:

30 mph- 1.5 hp

35 mph- 2 + hp

40 mph - 3 hp

45 mph - 3.5 hp

50 mph - 4 hp

60 mph- 6 hp

70 mph 8-9 hp

70+ 11+ hp

Data is very limited as few mopeds break 70 mph and i've only seen a handful dyno'd- metrakit 80 and gillardoni puch E-50's but the jump from 70 to say 75 requires a ton more power. Thats where air drag really goes off a cliff and it starts to take a ton of power to overcome.

obviously this is very much an educated guess, tons of people post all kinds of questionable crap over the years but enough people have posted good accurate data over the years that you can kinda guesstimate the rough amount of power it takes to push a moped at a given speed.

A well-built DR 43 runs low 50's on a single speed vespa transmission. By my math, i'd say 4-5 hp. More than enough for the shitty kinetic frame you'll be riding.

It will be interesting to see what you guys come up with.

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