Daniel is pretty sharp too. He races, so he does a lot of performance mods and pushes the envelope a little more than most. He has a cool little shop in Seattle. I took some cases to him to be bored and case matched; he does nice work.
So, Ken is more old school, and his builds are reliable and bulletproof. Daniel is young and risky, and out for speed, but also builds very reliable daily riders. Both have different approaches and I've learned a ton from both of them. Oh, and they hate each other; pretty sure.