Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

Alexander Gasiorowski /

Hi All,

First time poster, long time lurker!

This past summer I picked up a non-running 1984 Suzuki FA50 from a friend and nursed it back to health, installing a 60cc big bore kit from DOS cycles as well as a MLM Sidebleed pipe from treatland. With these mods and some knobby dirt bike tires the bike topped out 34mph on flat ground. Satisfactory! But I can never leave well enough alone. The cold winter months leave my mind brooding and I began hunting for more performance mods.

To preface, I'm just a hobbyist messing around with his first two stroke engine, I'm not well learned in the ways of two strokes, but I'm keen to understand through advice, reading, and experimentation.

The original cylinder head has a low compression domed combustion chamber that is 41mm in diameter at the base to match up with the original 41mm bore. This results in a 2mm step protruding into the chamber when a 45mm piston is installed. Even so, the piston is recessed enough in the bore such that the piston dome doesn't interfere with the head. I don't have qualitative data to prove that this 2mm ledge on the head has any quantitative impact on performance, but my hunch was that it probably interfered with flame propagation, as it left a shadowed ring of air/fuel around the perimeter of the combustion chamber.

With this in mind, I began looking for a cylinder head that would fit the stock cylinder and would be better suited to the 45mm bore. I found that in a cylinder head from a early 1970's Suzuki A80. The A80 has a 47mm bore and, to my layman's eyes, a nicer combustion chamber shape. The bolt holes line up perfectly with the original head, but I had to cut the top fins to allow it to clear the frame.

Now that I had a suitable head in hand, I took the cylinder jug and the head to the machine shop. Milling 0.020" from the head resulted in a perfect 45mm base diameter and a cylinder head dome that almost perfectly matches the 45mm piston dome. I CC'd the head before and after. The original combustion chamber volume was 9cc. After milling 0.020", it came out to around 7.5cc. To bring the piston's dome all the way out of the bore, I also had the cylinder decked 0.065".

Today I put it all together and fired it up for the first time! There's clearly a ton more compression. I estimate the static compression to be around 12:1. It runs great and there is no mechanical interference. I filled the tank with some 110 octane leaded fuel, but it knocked on initial startup as it burned through the 87 still in the lines. A road test is pending; there's still a foot of snow on the ground!

Let me know if you have any questions, comments, or tips! I'm keen to hear any thoughts about my hunch on the head ledge in the combustion chamber.

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Re: Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

Thats badass!!! Still running stock carb? I have a Honda Express NC50 with 70cc kit and MLM pipe. Ran that setup with stock 12mm carb for a while and topped out at about the same mph, maybe slightly higher at 35-37. Since then I've swapped to MLM intake and VM20 and it'll do 50 on flat ground. Bike picked up power everywhere with the bigger carb. Point being, I would look into a bigger carb if you're stilling running stock carb/intake

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Chöschi21 C.K. /

WoW, dId YoU cAlCuLaTe YoUr ToP Speed?????????? YoU wIlL GeT tO 70 mPh EaSy WiTh ThIs!!!!!!!!

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Alexander Gasiorowski /

I'm not following what you're trying to say.

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Alexander Gasiorowski /

Thanks! It has the stock carb and intake, those are slated to be upgraded next!

Re: Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

> Alexander Gasiorowski Wrote:

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> Thanks! It has the stock carb and intake, those are slated to be

> upgraded next!

Sweet! Report your findings when you upgrade!

Re: Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

> Chöschi21 C.K. Wrote:

> -------------------------------------------------------

> WoW, dId YoU cAlCuLaTe YoUr ToP Speed?????????? YoU wIlL GeT tO 70 mPh

> EaSy WiTh ThIs!!!!!!!!

Hilarious

Re: Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

Cool to see that Suzuki's are being modified by others. I may have to try this idea because currently my head has a 3-5mm step in it since it's a stock head just milled

Secondly, I recommend doing a bigger carb as well to go with your big bore kit and milled head

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todd amundson /
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Anyone else get one of these things yet? They’re a hoot to work on. This old WW2 Japanese vet has two of them out here. Pretty rowdy

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Re: Head Swapped Suzuki FA50

> todd amundson Wrote:

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> Anyone else get one of these things yet? They’re a hoot to work on. This

> old WW2 Japanese vet has two of them out here. Pretty rowdy

> >

A little info ^ : http://www.suzukicycles.org/FY-series/FY50.shtml

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