Auxiliary ports question

I have been messing with porting lately. just opening up transfers and junk.

I am about to try reshapeing for the first time here. I have my silly putty and junk and my 360° wheel to make sure i do it right. (i will most likely mess it up fa few times i know)

a few noob questions if you guys dont mind.

when do you suggest trying to make auxiliary ports?

should i wait until i get port re shaping down before trying auxiliary ports?

do auxiliary ports work on all cylinders? or a better choice of words is , can i adapt auxiliary ports to pretty much stock cylinder?

are we actually transferring a charge through these ports as the piston cycles? or are they purely for oil pooling and piston ring cooling?

ive seen a few pics of others work, how do you choose how large to make the auxiliary ports? trial and error? or math math math?

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Do you mean aux exhaust ports?

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Im trying to do some aux exhaust ports on a stock puch cylinder which I kinda got bored of after 5 min really id say stock cylinders are best to try aux ports cause you can always upgrade to a kit if you screw it up. Unless you have some mega rare stock cylinder. Most of the time I think that you can always have a bigger exhaust especially if you arent changing the port timing. The charge goes out the exhaust so yes the charge goes through them (assuming your talking about aux exh ports). I really havent seen people do these on 47mm puch cylinders I think cause the studs are too close, which is also why I think stockers are best. As for size you can always go bigger going smaller requires more work than everyone on MA would ever do.

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steven kline /

yes i did, i just didn't know what to call them yet! thank you! that will help my searches. the lingo is half the battle. (glad we have computers and the internet... ) I have been looking for in depth info and everything i find is super vague. I want to find a page, not a thread. thank you. :-)

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There's heaps of info in JBOT's thread if you didn't check it out...

http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/read.php?7,3550723,page=1

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steven kline /

this is so fucking gnarly...

so is this when you can achieve a big enough intake that you cannot match with one single exhaust? so to do the math would have to take a area of each of the 3 exhaust ports and add them together to compare to the area of the inlet? so all the same rules still apply?

if you tried to just make one massive exhaust port of the same area, instead instead of 3 individual ports, you would get ring grab and ruin your stuff?

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#Crazy Wayne ™ ROCK'S, #Crazy Wayne /

The nice thing about having 3 exhaust ports over one is that you do not need to have as many degrees of blow down because you have the width of the three ports to get the same flow before your transfer ports open

The other good thing about this is it you get more Low end power because the compression stroke is longer due to the fact that your exhaust Port is not as high to get the same flow as you would have with 1 exhaust

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steven kline /

i love low end power! sweeeeetness! i want to try this

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To get more low end power you will need to lower your exhaust port by some means. Just aux porting an existing cylinder has the effect of raising the exhaust port without actually having done so as the spirit of CW pointed out above and I try to make more clear to the neophyte.

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Don't forget the effect you get when you pipe it. The power will come on a LOT stronger with a 100% effective width exhaust port, because the outgoing exhaust pulse will have a much sharper pressure spike, and the reflow will have more port to work with.

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