1977 Superclutch Experiences:

NB0tt aholetechbro /

Apr 11, 2014 05:55PM

So far myself and a friend have had nothing but problems with our 77 Superclutches.

I've seen/heard people say that you should drill out the studs on the shoes and put in larger ones along with using larger hardware like M7 or M8. If you go the M7 route good luck finding the proper bolts and it seems to be that M8 would be too large without modifying the shoes and getting larger springs but I'm not sure.

What has everyone else had to do so far to make their 77 SC's work?

Is there anyone that has been able to run their SC completely stock without issues?

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Ryan N. /

iamcrkt

Apr 11, 2014 06:09PM

lol, figured that would happen.

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Michael Thomas /

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michaelt

Apr 11, 2014 07:07PM

called it, same issues as BRN clutches

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andysimpson

Apr 11, 2014 07:33PM

Mark Swoop and Jordan swoop have had good luck with theirs. However in fairness I believe they picked through a few before they grabbed theirs

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sabat

Apr 11, 2014 07:54PM

i know stock 2 shoes have they're limits, but they work pretty good with kickstart springs, and if you brace one they last a long long time.

theres way too many clutch options for a e50 right now...

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powerchair

Apr 11, 2014 08:25PM

Ya the BNR was like betting a dead horse.

Thanks to 1977 Moped's Super clutch we have Mooo on.

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NB0tt aholetechbro /

botticelli OP

Apr 11, 2014 08:40PM

Damn, that cow just keeps on getting beat over and over and over and over

Has anyone actually upgraded to M8 bolts yet? How straight forward was it?

I guess I'm wondering what people have actually done and what kind of success they've had.

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powerchair

Apr 11, 2014 09:05PM

What you want is a Monkey with a AK47.

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Tan Blea /

tannerpaceb

Apr 11, 2014 11:02PM

Super clutch fucked me good.

First blue lock tight failed.

Red lock tight with new hadware, screws stayed in. Clutch bell separated from bushing. Cooked bushing into crank. East of 99.00$. :(

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JBOT Admin /

capturedbyrobots

Apr 11, 2014 11:05PM

I sold mine to a nice guy who doesn't hold it against me. Right??

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JBOT Admin /

capturedbyrobots

Apr 11, 2014 11:13PM

My idea to improve reliability of the screws was to add a steel spacer between the hub and the bolt head so the entirety of the bolt has something to support it, instead of being able to flex any which way from the hub.

It would be a tight fit but might solve some of the busted bolt issue

due to no support across the whole length of the bolt.

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adamr

Apr 11, 2014 11:25PM

the only one worth a hoot is the hammer, for real. just take the time to break in the material and you'll be golden for lots of worry free high-rpm engaging miles.

and anyone who is serious about trying to make a big boy clutch work should have the gear welded to the bell.

stock 2 shoe is good, 3 shoe with real shoes is good too. kickstart is a must.

i was gonna buy one to try it, but then i scored 2 complete REAL ktm clutches for $35 from ebay.

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powerchair

Apr 12, 2014 12:14AM

Been rocking chainsaw clutches in my E50's

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ryanwiebusch

Apr 12, 2014 12:17AM

Michael Thomas Wrote:

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> called it, same issues as BRN clutches

We all called it, and even when we offered help.... no one reached out.

$$ > r/d

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Brent Bublitz /

photozz

Apr 12, 2014 12:21AM

Agree on the Hammer. Loaded one in my Garelli and it's better every day. Slippy then grippy. Worth the price.

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powerchair

Apr 12, 2014 12:26AM

Ya it was like one of day of 77mopes R&D and one year to ship out after you pad for it,

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Rich (OFMC) /

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Apr 12, 2014 02:11PM

Love my hammer with the ATF royal purple. This is my second season an still no issue!!

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stevew

Apr 12, 2014 02:49PM

Stihl by chance? Which number? Thread it on or what?

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powerchair

Apr 12, 2014 03:23PM

I will post with pics putting some together in the next week or two.

Got to finish up a batch of HD Moby mounts first.

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adamr

Apr 12, 2014 04:36PM

i'm ready to see what's available.

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Matt Mahloch -- MBM Customs /

azzkikinvette

Apr 13, 2014 10:00PM

I've had a KTM sitting on the shelf for 2 years now and have yet to try it out, I think this Thursdays going to be the day. Hopefully worth the wait.

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adamr

Apr 13, 2014 10:27PM

^ you might be impressed, you might not be. the limits of a 1-speed wet centrifugal clutch are ok if you weigh 110 pounds.

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Nick STL Ruffians /

mazzer

Apr 13, 2014 10:39PM

Got a day out of mine before the bolts backed out, and bent. I used red on just the bottom few threads. Fingers crossed these quality bolts and tons of locktite hold

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fowler

Apr 13, 2014 11:24PM

so what im gettin from this:

adjust springs to slip without revving to the moon

red (or maybe even green) loctite required

My E50 just has a case matched A55 stock topend and im only shooting for 40mph.

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NB0tt aholetechbro /

botticelli OP

Apr 14, 2014 01:24AM

Mazzer, when you say bent you mean the bolts got bent?

Yep, I really could stand to lose about 60lbs.....might make clutch woes go away

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tylerb

Apr 14, 2014 01:50AM

Sounds like the issues people are having is because they are not bottoming out the bolts. Take out the washers and run the stock spring. If its still too gnarly, grind down the springs a lil. Super easy, only take a few minutes to set one of these up for mild street riding and will last forever with no problems.

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deesal

Apr 14, 2014 02:00AM

mine ran fantastic with brand new springs all the way tight, then it span on my crank so i locktited the shit out the taper and that held up. It was pretty much put it in and go until the springs "broke in" or as I like to say wore out. Launches were only in the 5k region with those springs. i modded mine to have some heavy duty kart springs and rode it once. I guess my shoes weren't adjusted perfectly and since they are so light you really have to be spot on or else it kinda goes RW-wa-wa-WA-wAAAaaaaaa on engagement. I had it close, but it was still too unbalanced for that high of rpm launches and it ripped my gear out of the bell(unwelded stock) and toasted the main gear. then i switched to a z50 and haven't wanted to fuck with that waste of money anymore. I swear i must have had it off the bike 100 times. (edited)

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tylerb

Apr 14, 2014 02:06AM

Kinda silly to not have a welded clutch bell and running high rpm stalls...

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Nick STL Ruffians /

mazzer

Apr 14, 2014 08:49AM

NB0tt's Moped Taco Racers 100% Daily Nutritional Value Wrote:

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> Mazzer, when you say bent you mean the bolts got

> bent?

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> Yep, I really could stand to lose about

> 60lbs.....might make clutch woes go away

correct.

the shitty chinese bolts backed-out and bent.

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adamr

Apr 14, 2014 09:35AM

all i know is my girlfriends maxi with a hammer doesn't get off the clutch til 45mph and is just about as fast as a honda elite 150 to 55mph.

MOPED ARMY

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