and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

Justin Dawind /

noob performance. noobormance.

so here's the story...

i got a 77 puch maxi for pretty cheap and it didn't run. stock e50 one speed. after thoroughly digesting as much as i could from this forum as a noob i realize i, at some point, would like to add some balls to it. but not just yet. my plan was to at least get it up and running and then gradually start doing a few modifications when time/money permitted. anyways, i began the teardown of trying to find out what's wrong. wow, small carbon buildup on the piston, cylinder is squeaky clean, head is squeaky clean and still flat? score! but it feels like low compression. long story short, after rings and gaskets and such i got it to kick over. yay for noob! HOWEVER, mid way through putting the cylinder and head back on i realize that when tightening down the M6 studs that my top left one isn't grabbing the nut and come to find out the threads been stripped. "well, fuck" is my thought, "so at some point i need to helicoil or drill and retap that to a M7" i have other stuff i can work on the bike anyway... like oh say, changing the trans fluid since i figured the bike had been sitting awhile it would probably be a good idea..

well needless to say i popped that sumbitch oil plug off annnnd it's stripped as well. "well fuck, i have to drill and retap that too"

so i got a nice cylinder, head and piston and now my case is starting to get fucked. i ALSO have a fear that when i pull the case apart (so i can prevent metal getting in the case when i drill and retap the plug) the threads are going to start stripping, which i mean, drilling and retapping isn't a big deal for me because i'm a machinist.

SO, given the information and the aforementioned balls that must be applied in the near future, should i just go for it? obviously all of you are going to say yes (hopefully?), so let me rephrase that. i have to tear everything down anyway. since i have to do it anyway should i throw in a stuffed crank, 3 shoe clutch, CDI ignition, gila or polini, treats/77mopeds bells and whistles and a horn that plays "la lucucaracha", etc.? any suggestions? comments? good jokes? bad jokes? i'm ron burgundy?

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

DO EEEETTTT GO FOR GOLD!!!!!

also scotch scotch scotch i love scotch.

but would start with a cheaper kit. Unless you've done this before. Kinda a steep learning curve with the bigger kits. Read about this myself and decided on the cheap ass Kstar kit. Blow it up, what ever, next. Just an idea. heard the polini kits are trouble for n00bz. Also if you dont get your timing and mixture right fucking up a 230 jug and piston would suck. K-star 70cc, Mikuni vm18, Boss techno, jet kit, timing light and hours and hours and hours. runs all day at 40+ Also for your tuning i would suggest a Temp gauge. 2 cents from another newbie Enjoy. Worth the time and investment. hopefully this was of SOME help.

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

Justin Dawind /

the other option is to find another case and use the same stock parts. i'm just getting hesitant since there's already 2 stripped threads on this case.

i could very well easily rip this case apart, put helicoils in it, weld it and bore it for something special. butttt...... should i...........?

the general idea that i get with polini vs gila is that polini is a bitch to tune and gila requires case boring.

i can do case boring. (edited)

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

ahhh have no input there. Can't swim that far from the beach yet. Read the polini is a great kit but easy to fuck up if you're an idiot, know it all. But having another case would be nice. 2 chances hahah

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

Justin Dawind /

this is true.

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

Nice name though my wallet has been empty since i got bitten by the puch.

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

You sound like a mechanically smart enough guy, I say go balls out, Polini or Gila or Athena AJH. Just start rich on the mix and work your way leaner till it stops 4stroking and you'll be O K

Re: and so it begins.... the demise of my noob paychecks

Christian Giron /

I'm going to go with dustin. Yes, you seem like a mechanically smart guy, but tuning an engine correctly is a different kind of knowledge than machining (not saying you wouldn't be able to figure it out quickly). Learning how to jet, plug chops, feeling when its lean, timing, all of that can be done on a cheaper kit that you might blow up, but it'll still probably run like a champ after.

You'll still hit about 55 if you do it right. later, when you feel comfortable, I'd say go with polini or gila.

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