Hey guys, I am in the process of painting my moped so I decided to pull apart my motor and do a little porting to my Kstar kit, matched with a 15mm bing and proma gp exhaust. I was doing some reasearch and heard that opening up the intake and exhaust port might add a little power, so I decided to do so. On the intake side I took out too much material and went through the ports that are below the intake side. (I dont know what there called) So basically there is a small hole on my intake that shoots into that port rightbelow it. Did I ruin my cylinder?
70cc Kstar porting
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It's a door stopper now, our you can make a porleni out of it.
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Or a boat anchor if you got one. Any pics of this?
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Please post a picture
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Why were you lowering the intake port so much? Even if you didn't go through to the other port, the port timing would make it unusable. Who told you to do that? Even in the other threads people weren't taking several mms off their intake timing only minor 1mm here and there type deals.
Yes we need pics of this one.
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The blowback is already so much on this cylinder you don't want to mess with intake timing-------------just my own opinion
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o god! we need pics of this port your talking about! pics!
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DAMNIT!! I dont know what I was doing. It only had lie 200 miles after break in on the cylinder and the cross hatches from the honing were still very noticeable. I am an idiot I guess. Why wont it work like this? Ill post a pic in a lil..
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Stupid die grinder...you can see the two little notches going into the two ports under the intake. I read that opening up the intake and exhaust ports will give me more power. I guess not?...
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Doh!
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Going wider with them not going down. That sucks man good thing there cheap compared to others
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wrong way
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Those ports aren't "below" the intake either they are above it. Those are your boost ports that you ran into.
If you get a new one and decide to port do a little more reading first and don't use a Dremel in my opinion. Get some good quality hand files and spend some time on that shit.
-Aron
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That wasn't my "finished" product, but hand files sound a little better with that darn soft metal. So the other way huh? I see...anyone want to share any info on what to do with the exhaust ports? The match on the outside with my proma circuit pipe is pretty much the same. Should I pen it up fully round or keep some of the shape it has? Still trying to find an answer for that one...
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might as well research more, and use that thing for practice on the exhaust side :)
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you should be getting flamed way more for this.
http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Category:Performance_Tuning
The two links at the top? At least read bell before posting one more time. You never would have done this. All the questions about port shape and bullshit would be answered.
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Try running it. Ya know for science. Your rings prolly will catch though.
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You could clean up those edges where the boost ports meet the intake so you can have a smooth flow. I don't think the rings will go low enough to cross over the bride, but the edge should be chamfered so it doesn't scratch up the skirt. Then make yourself a little reed block for the intake. Examples of small reeds that might work (honda spree, morini, batavus m48, solo) (edited)
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Read first? Or reed later?
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av10 reeds work great as well
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smooth it out and convert it to a reed cylinder
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It would be a bit cheaper to turn into a reed kit then to buy a whole new kit? Does treats sell just the cylinder? I just dont know if my skills are up to par yet in creating my own reed kit. Should I go with the Kstar kit if I go that route? Or tccd? Seems as though kstar is a little better?
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Flame me way more.
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Did you research at all?
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Yeah I finally got some time to sit down and do some reading. I guess you dont just grab your dremel and widen the shit out of your ports to go faster. Feel like an idiot now...but a smarter idiot atleast.
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Yep, doorstop. Save the piston as an extra.
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Yea that cylinder seemingly ruined is a great candidate for more porting with the addition of reeds
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^This
-Aron
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If you don't want to make a reed kit out of it. I would like to try. How much?
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The AV10 reeds are the easiest that you can install without a lot of milling machine time. Instead a dremel will work nice. AV10 reeds are small and will only flow a 16mm carb maximum but it still makes for a lot of power if the cylinder and piston are ported for max intake timing. Very easy to tune too. I use that $22 dollar shipped pit bike carb. It has an oval passage through it but all in all its about a 16mm
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