MOPED ARMY

get a three shoe. get two 2 shoe clutches, take off the 4 shoes, make them small so they fit a three shoe. get a clutch brace and kickstart springs.

REV FOR DAYS AND THE CLUTCH WILL LAST FOREVER!

Corn got a good idea. If you got to down gear that much for the clutch to work what good is it. I tune a 2 shoe with thick springs and with a Cheep 70 cc kit, small carb and 16x40 gears I could get the front wheel up. I got to sit on the back of the seat but still very good take off

see i am warping braced clutches.. it has nothing to do with the tuning of the clutch.. i am heavy on a heavy ped.. with a bike that revz past 8k climning steep ass San Francisco hills.. my clutches last days not months... the pads look fine.. its the posts and even the plates warp.. the brace holes get ovalized... so from my experience I have only had luck with the ktm clutch though starting was a bitch... looks like this clutch is solid and should stay that way.. i like it..

corn-

I have always been using the atomic braced clutch.. I have used the stock screws that come with it.. i also tried counter sinking the screws one time because the earlier versions used to scrape the bell housing.. I understand that most people have zero problems with the 3 shoes and two shoes clutches.. I also have zero problems with them when I am in the flats or moderate hills.. also if they are on a lighter bike like a maxi with lower gearing I also have zero problems.. the problem starts to happen when I use them on heavily modified setups.. I start to warp out the clutches because I blast up steep hills and they slip more at that time causing them to slightly ovalize the holes in the clutch brace making the metal parts of the arms drag on the bell at idle.. in other words major off the line lag and shitty run up time to the pipe before i climb a major hill.. im talking like a mile long steep hill here and I need reliability so im not fucking pushing my moped up half the fucking hill.. the only ped I had that would blast 60mph up a hill was a polini that was ported by Elliot Ortiz and the two shoe clutch was perfectly tuned.. though it took two long blocks for the pipe to hit.. in my case with traffic lights that is a huge risk since running them could be death by cross traffic..

you should get a pipe with a lower RPM powerband, and dont have your clutches slip so much. That would solve the hill issue too, as youd be in your powerband going up hills and not slipping the fuck out of your clutch and warping it and so forth.

yeah proma circuits are great for hills.. but top end would get down to 40-45... i kinda like hitting 50mph.. im gonna see if this MK clutch lets me climb hills with mad slip and still hit 50+.. since it has so much surface area it should potentially last much longer then the dinky stock puch pads..

cool I used to live in a forest..

just tried to climb bosworth but the roads were way to wet for my michelen tires.. fuck they suck in the rain.. had to push it up diamond street.. mf

If having slip issues, try "MOTOR HONEY"

More on this subject.

So I tried out a tomos spring cut about 3/4 of an inch off and it worked much better.. I would however think cutting an inch or more off would be perfect.. so my test concludes that this clutch is solid.. just buy a few of the tomos springs on treats and cut them down and experiment.. its pretty easy to adjust since you dont need to take the clutch off the shaft.. anyways.. i blew up my kit.. ring caught a window so im moving onto my za50.. i'll kit this e50 out with a cheap kstar or maybe i'll gila it someday.. lol

Bump. Also, what kinda oil are you using?

wayne the kit caught a ring due to my rear wheel bearing exploding while riding.. I did not build the rear wheel nor did i build the engine.. one of the guys at treats built the bike.. so you can suck it wayne..

???

normally i think telling wayne to "suck it" is funny. but what the fuck does your rear wheel bearing have to do with catching a ring? isnt that like saying "my exhaust came loose and it blew my headlight and wayne can suck it."?

anyway, sorry to hear about the kit. how did the clutch perform while hot vs. cold? notice any difference? it looks like it would generate a lot more heat and maybe mess with the slipping properties of the trans oil more because of it.