when you use your lunch lever..

steve /

stevep1989

Jan 22, 2010 01:01PM

yes i intentionally spelled lunch lever incorrectly. cause id rather have a lunch lever than a launch lever but i think thats been discussed.

anyways. when you use that baby, do you stomp your engine all the way down into its most unvariated (low end) gear ratio? or kinda somewhere in between? also when do you start stompin it? my 50cc winds up fairly slow so i gotta let it get up to about 3-4 k before it makes any sense to stomp it. and then when i do stomp it, i push as hard as i can without feeling like im gonna hurt something. but when i look down the variator isnt _all_ the way down, but mostly.

my lunch lever is just a long bolt coming off my stock exhaust brackets... this works well but i cant imagine it provides the same leverage as one of those fancy pedal-shaft operated dealies. also really shreds my belts and my engine mounts.

just kinda asking out of curiosity. been thinking about gear ratios and pulleys and stuff.

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steve /

stevep1989 OP

Jan 22, 2010 01:01PM

well i guess lunch lever was spelled correctly, launch lever was not. but it depends on how you wanna look at it. semantics.

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steve /

stevep1989 OP

Jan 22, 2010 01:02PM

oh jeeze and by the way im talkin moby here but i guess pug and others are still pertinent.

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mopagen

Jan 22, 2010 02:14PM

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brianwa

Jan 22, 2010 05:36PM

I have broken a few stompoing the shit out of it. Since then i just tuned my variator and havent had a use for one since. I always wondered when people used them on well tuned bikes with clutch pulleys and tuned variators? they are fun on stock bikes or moderately tuned bikes, stomp it and get an extra little boost.

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jesses

Jan 22, 2010 11:25PM

I can see them being useful when you are racing, or if it's not tuned all the way, or just for messing around with. Really, for all the harder it is to install one, go ahead.

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steve /

stevep1989 OP

Jan 23, 2010 11:36AM

i didnt realize there was so much distaste for lunch levers. lot of people are stereotyping them as like a cop out or an easy way out of tuning or something. maybe thats true on a more powerful setup, but given my 50cc with varplus i have 3 weight set options (w/o mixing and matching). the lights didnt get my var to open past 25, the mids were better, and the heavies were the best. if i could get slightly heavier weights thatd be even better still, im sure. maybe i should weaken up my spring. but for the combination of stuff ive got going on now, my variator is tuned as best it can be. so the launch lever helps me retake some low end and mid range when it can. more of a supplement to variator tuning rather than a replacement, id say.

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trina

Jan 23, 2010 01:52PM

I personally like having something there, I often do not use it but having something set up like the like they do with a french races bikes vs a cheap launch lever makes a big difference in using it. I light touch is usually all the motor needs. Sometimes the spring /doppler spring/ etc. get a little sticky in some parts of there movement, it's a easy fix with a touch on the lever. Sometimes you want to put a little less torque down to the rear wheel if for example you have your bike tuned out for maximum acceleration(also handy for occasional wet road conditions). It's like driving a manual transmission full out isn't always the best for all conditions and it's nice to be able to change the gearing with out changing out the weights. I think the problem is usually the operators, and not the device itself.

-naz

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