MOPED ARMY

Damn, I wish I had one of those.

did the bikes make x,xxx rpm like stated at the end, or did you forget a zero?

May i ask what model dyno you guys were running on?

opps forgot the 0's it should read

paz za50 15,000

av10 moby 11,500

points peugeot 12,500

cdi peugeot 11,500

hobbit 8,000

i don't know the model of the dyno I know it was a dyno jet and they told us it costs $70,000 or something over $50 grand.

yeah lees peugeot made good power for the setup even on points, later on we diagnosed the problem to a circlip that came out but did not seize the piston instead it allowed the wrist pin to work its way outward and then finally catch on the bottom of one of the transfers this tore the crank in two and split the motor completely apart, it literally shredded thru cases in several spots, and halted the heavy ass drum on dyno during the process. I wish i was shooting then.

end of the video has the HP numbers

i think the birth of the idea of fuel injected mopeds was caught on camera.

hardly. The idea of fule injected mopeds has probably been circulating for years, with no one to implement it. Derbi makes a 2 stroke fuel injected scooter.

http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/read.php?f=7&i=162062&t=162060

dyno action = awesome, btw.

I think we also learned that the extent a kit made for "mopeds" is designed to take a bike is 8 maybe 9 hp with a few exceptions. 80 metras and other kits designed for Mofas or larger bikes will make more hp on a big setup, then there are even more impressive kits for scooters and such that as you saw took a za50 to 16 hp.

I'd say around 8 hp or 9 hp would be the fastest bikes ppl typically see at rallies. however on the track 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 + hp is probably what the fastest machines are making. But peak HP means nothing in a race if you can't stay in the powerband, so a variated bike with a nice wide powerband with less hp that peaks and stays there will always dust a non variated bike that is constantly jumping in and out of its powerband with more hp.

The other thing to note is power to weight ratio, I think thats uber important when we are dealing with such low hp outputs.

pretty cool. I'd like to see more bikes dyno'd. I think both motomatic and 77 have friends/sponsors running them, but any ideas on what it would cost for someone like me to do a few runs?

tommy, your HP is just right for the track. Although 9 might not be as awesome as you had hoped, its doing that basically at the speeds through the turns, so you have high exit speeds.

We had to pay for our time. It aint cheap. $100 per hour i believe. Tony paid for our time luckily, which is why his bike had about 30 runs, and mine about 3. haha.

Yeah, I honestly am not complaining about my power. Its nearly perfect for the track. I honestly would be fine with doing nothing to my motor before the next race, and just working out the quirk with my rear end and riding position so I can get through the track faster. I doubt the motor wont get touched though.

everything in the far east is injected.

Awesome.

I'm sure that was a blast to check out in person.

Do you guys feel like the blower fan gave a fair analog to the kind of air flow you would get on the street? If not, it might not have provided enough cooling to the fins or turbulance to carb. Also, dynos aren't really meant for smaller bikes like ours. They are a good tool for seeing what changes what with what set up, but a lot of variables don't get taken into account like total loaded weight including rider, wind resistance, and of course all the handling characteristics.

That being said, they are a good tool, but by no means the final word on how "fast" a bike is.

Cuperracer: Keep an eye out at your local powersports stores. I don't know if its the same all over, but around here there are a couple days a year when places truck in a dyno or two and just let people get there shit dynoed.