V-2: Pipe doesn't "hit".

I got my 3 wire stator and flywheel from Eric, and got the V-2 fired up again. It runs fine, but only about 45mph.

The pipe (Mamba) does not "hit", low or high end like it did on the V-1. I re-installed the head gasket, because that was the only thing different than when the kit was on the V-1. It still won't hit. I am open for ideas...?? I know I had pipe problems on the V-1 if the fuel/airbox wasn't just right, and I also lost the pipe when I tried a high compression head. The only thing I can think of is there may be leakage around the base of the jug??

Thoughts?? Ideas??

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Did you use new gasket.. when installing that kit?

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Are you sure? Here is my setup:

I'm running a Dellorto 15.15 SHA (#80 jet) with the "bendy" 15mm Minarelli/Puch intake that 1977 sells. I put on a K&N style metal mesh screen filter. I'm also running the Puch LeoVince exhaust.

My pipe feels like it hits right after the variator is all the way open. Obviously your pipe will hit differently since you have the Mamba. One thing I did notice is that my pipe hits FAST and HARD due to the gearing I'm running right now (14x32). I feel like I'm getting to just over 40mph. If I had to guess, I'd say 42mph. It seems like you should be getting a lot more than that since I remember you saying that you are running a smaller rear sprocket.

What is your whole setup right now?

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I'm gonna go pick it up shortly and bring it home.

V-2

75cc Polini

15/15 Dellorto #68 jet

Mamba pipe

14x22 gearing

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Nope.

Reused the one that came with the Polini.

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I would ... replace the gaskets..

intake, exhaust, base, head gaskets but that is me.

Sounds weird its not hitting a powerband.

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I cut my own gaskets for everything. That shitty little thin paper gasket that comes with the 75cc Polini kit is worthless. I use a thicker gasket material. The black stuff that they sell in rolls at auto-parts stores.

68 jet seems low on a 75cc cylinder. Have you tried putting in a bigger one just to see what happens? I mean, I think I'm running rich with the 80 but I'm not 4-stroking at all.

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I guess. .lol

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_68 jet seems low on a 75cc cylinder. Have you tried putting in a bigger one just to see what happens? _

I am going to try that next. Also, a friend has a 16/16 I will try.

I just rode it home... it sure pulls the hills nicely.

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when i had a 16.16 with 75 polini i was running between 74-76.

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Yeah I need to pull my plug and check it out. I have a feeling its a bit rich. Still breaking it in a bit though.

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Sounds about right for speed, have you looked into a more modern pipe? That baby dell will hold you back.... Going from a 15 to a 19 netted me 6mph.

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hmm. also. it might be different because yo're running a variated minarelli, but if i geared my v1 like that it would never get close enough to hitting the right rpms to hit the powerband. try gearing down to allow your motor to find those rpms sooner. the powerband "hit" is based on frequency that's made by rpms. i'm geared 10x32 on my v1 polini, 20mm carb and intake, high comp head, motomatic n8p. great low and midrange and 55-60mph all day on the top end

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You would probably have better results with a PHBG.

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V2 and V1 gearing are way different.

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you may never hit the powerband because the gearing is too high. I would guess that you will be faster if you have less gearing. I would guess that you still are not hitting your pipe because the engine does not have enough power to reach the power 14/22 seems like way to high of gearing. That is twice the gearing of 10x32 andy is running. i would step down to a 12x22 and see if you can get into the powerbank

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a move up from a 16 sha to a 21phbg was a gps'd 7mph increase.

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V2 gearing is kinda different Jeremy. I was at 14x32 and had all kinds of high end rpms, but not the speed to match the rpms. You'll have to ride it to see what I mean.

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You went from 14x32 == which is a .4375 ratio to 14x22 with is a .636 ratio. That is a HUGE jump. That is 45% taller gearing. Before you were going 42mph. With the same rpms the new gearing would take you to 62. Unless you are really trying to go 62, I would try lower gearing... or tune you variator to shift into the powerband.

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Actually, (the way I figure) I went from 2.28 to 1.57. That is calculating rear sprocket (wheel) turns in relation to drive sprocket revolutions.

The pipe was "flat" before, at 2.28 to 1.

What I need is a TinyTach! The rpms seem to be there, and this is exactly the sort of thing I ran into when I had the kit on the V1.

On the V1, goofy things would send that pipe flat, namely airbox changes, and also installing a hi compression head. Go figure... Pulling just one air tube on the V1 setup would send the pipe flat.

I think a Bennesar pipe is in order...

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ask mopagen about getting an EV pipe..

fred

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i say rock 14x32 and have fun with it like i am. dust everyone off the line. i seriously wish i could measure my 0-40 acceleration right now cuz its nuts.

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the pipe not hitting is all in the gearing. your pipe does hit, but much too early. when the variator is fully open the gearing is either too tall to make the RPM to get into the pipe, or the RPM is too much.

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or it could just be lean again do you go faster or slower with moving the needle

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wow commas are good. there should be one before the again or maybe a period. i have no idea on grammar. or just delete the again if you feel like. this is why i would like an edit button

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SHA's dont have needles.

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I'm waiting for his response to my email...

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Crossvalley Tonysieze /

im having that problem with my v-1. just got the mamba, and running with the 16.16SHA with a high comp. im thinking im jetting too high? im not using any of the mesh filters on the carb, just a foam covering with an 82 jet. what did you do to make it work efficiently? =\ maybe jetting is your problem too??? i think that may be mine.

just wondering cause your set up is kind of identical.

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I am with Peter with the variator not being tuned to hit with your setup. Gearing will easily be overcome with the properly tuned vari

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except on a completely different engine.

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