bad idea to kit carb and pipe at once?

is it a bad idea to throw a 65 kit 19mm carb/ intake and pipe on a stock puch mag all at one time? is that asking for trouble or can it be done. i wanna go fasttttttt

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yeah, too much. get carb dialed in, then do pipe, redial the carb. if your carb is set correctly before the pipe, you should only have to worry about jets after the pipe, easing the headache

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Pablo Puchasso /

You're doing it right. Go for it.

If you put just the pipe on, you gotta rejet anyway. If you put just the carb on, it will be (too?) big for the cylinder. If you put on just the kit, it'll be lame and you'll have to redial it in later with the carb anyway.

You should probably do a rebuild first or soon after you might need one. Will you and the magnum be at the rally Rob? You should ask Tracy to help you dude. I didn't realize until recently that you knew him. His bike is fast bro. Ask him this kinda stuff.

Re: bad idea to kit carb and pipe at once?

Stick it all on in one go. You'll have to retune the carb when you add new parts anyway, so you might as well do it all at once.

There's not really any negative sides, other than you might have no clue on the starting jet (Tip: Start high, like in the 80's or 90's and then work down.)

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ya i would do it all at once. changing jets that many times would be a pain. there is nothing wrong with doing it all at once, you just should start out wit a bigger jet and work your way down to break in the new kit.

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me and your magnum will be there max mojo

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Pablo Puchasso /

cool.Rallies make great break in rides.

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yo rob. its cody. i met you when you were at quinns. i just got my shit put together (a35 70cc alukit, estoril, and 16mm dellorto sha) i can help you as much as i know. i got mine running in one day. email me with your number and we'll get your shit hopefully running.im just waiting on jets to get mine tuned right

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I'm gonna disagree with the idea that you should do it all at once.

Not to discredit your moped motor building or tuning skills but it has been my experience that doing things one at a time and learning about each part individually will strengthen your overall skill and knowledge of 2stoke tuning. That's how the best builders got to be the best they started off slow and learned about the system part by part.

If this is your 1st build its best to do things one step at a time because you will make mistakes, and trying to get your bike running with so many new variables is hard to begin with and near imposable if you make mistakes installing the parts along the way.

I have a very strong feeling towards the moped "theory" (yes mopeding can be a theory) that teaches, better to know why you blast, then actually blasting.

At 77sf we see a lot of failed builds come into the shop from ppl who had higher hopes and bigger wallets than their building skills. hey i love getting paid to fix bikes like that cuz it always super fun to get a pile of go fast parts and someone who says make it blast. I would really love to see them out there every monday ride getting just a little faster each week cuz that's what its all about.

sry thats long

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King Drunky JCams /

I do that all the time.

I almost never do one thing at a time when making a moped fast.

Kit Carb Filter Intake Gearing Exhaust - all at the same time.

Then I tune it.

I agree with elliot though that if this is your first build you should take it slow and go step by step so you can really learn the process.

Then, on your next build you can go nutty all in one shot.

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yeah totals take it slow 1st build learn about all the things that can and will go wrong then, next time around just do it all at once the right way.

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Stick close to your peer's setups in the spreadsheet too. helped me big time on my first build.

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aww that put a damper on my excitement. I understand know your machine but i just want this beauty to be fast and don't want to have to keep upgrading parts that are already perfectly fine to go a little faster ya know

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agree with elliot.

my first build took forever because I was still learning too much and I just put parts on and tried to go.

if you have the know how, its a different story!

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if your going to go step by step go:

Pipe - retune stock carb

Bigger carb - tune again

Kit - tune yet again

Atleast that's the order i'd go in...

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^^^

intake at same time as bigger carb above...

but a 19mm on a stock jug is big.

fuck it... just throw it on there!

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pipe, jet

Kit, jet

Carb, jet

Blast

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Pablo Puchasso /

Depending on the kit size I think that you should at least do kit and carb at the same time. Pipe can go first I agree though.

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most kits with a pipe and stock dinky carb would be seize city pretty quick though...

If you are going 14/15 bing or 15/16 SHA you could def do carb before kit.

Depends on your final setup choice though.

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its a dell phbg 19mm race. i have a metra 65 and a boss pipe. throw it all on?

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Yes, that's what I did, and more....

Search for Extreme Urban Express

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Threw it all together in about 45 never had to rejet thanks to the spreadsheet and I was blasting haha too easy I'm pumped

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hahaha...i wouldn't speak too soon...there is no such thing as too easy, be careful.

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