MOPED ARMY

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when you say move the needle down one what do you mean?

ah, okie. ill look into that one. i dont remeber that on my old tomos, but i dont know everything.

is there a way that the bike became lean? i mean i put almost 2k miles on it just fine, and after i took the airbox off it started doing this

i also do not have the estoril on it yet, just the turbo

no no, it only needs choke to start, where it didnt before i (temporarilly) took the air box off. im running the same setup as i did to drive from fla to sc, it never had an issue till that airbox came off. im going to go look to see if i may have an air leak

no, the bog was just when the airbox was off. its on now, not bogging.

and i was thinking temps too, but i just went outside and it fired first kick, after sitting for 5 hours. mid afternoon needed choke, and it was upper 80s!

gabby, thanks! the pipe helped some, as did the upjet ( found a local that has no airbox and biturbo running stock jet and he wonders why i passed him so fast)

i didnt think that the estoril would require a jet change, but im still going to get a few because i want all i can get out of this prior to kitting, ya know? like a 50cc/50mph thing (im fat, so ill settle for consistant 45)

I think you're a little confused. As stated before removal of the airbox would cause you to run lean, as witnessed by the telltale sign of bogging. This in no way would lead to a fouled plug, but rather a white or burned plug(if anything). Exhaust? who knows, but if you're going for 50/50, there are better pipes than the estoril. I revved higher with a biturbo.

no idle is only for idle. if you take the air box off or go hi-flow, you need to re jet again. do one thing at a time it makes life easier.

Yo, What you need to do is just jet real high and come down until it doesn't four stroke any more. I have never done a plug chop and my bikes always run fine. If you are to rich the bike will want to bog when you take off. If you are to lean the bike will bog on take off also. If you start high you will at least know you are rich and you can just come down a few sizes until the bike does not four stroke on take off. When it seems fine at idle hammer on it and when you are at max or close to max speed and the bike four strokes a little come down on the jetting one by one until it doesn't fourstroke any more. If it doesn't four stroke at full throttle then upjet until it does and then you will know where you need to be. It is very simple but takes a bit of time to get it right.

Have you cleaned the carb lately? Could just be funk slowly built up in your jet/idle circuit. Either way, it never hurts to clean it.

Four stroking is exactly that -- a 2 stroke that sounds like a 4. It sounds like the engine is choking, because there's too much fuel and not enough air. The fuel only combusts half the time instead of every time, since that "lost" stroke sometimes brings enough air into the cylinder or expels enough fuel for it to fire. The excess fuel will come out of your exhaust and possibly catch fire! If you're REALLY a cool dude and your pipe is short (hence hot), you just might get a flameout or two.

The sound changes from the smooth 2-stroke WAAAAAAA sound to a coarser sound.