MOPED ARMY

did you upjet when you put the pipe on? if so you are probably too rich... test this by taking the airbox off. if not you are too lean, test this by playing with the choke while riding.

the airbox is restricting you hardcore.

what do you mean you adjusted the carb?

what do you mean you got new variators and shit? tfrs dont have variators.

as far as next, (after you get it running right as is) i would up the compression to around 150psi and run premium. that will help the pipe work better and get you better bottom end. be careful not to go too far as i had alot of pinging issues.

after that get a 13mm carb

a genuine vespa kit... either performance or stock will be an upgrade.

learn to port the case and cut the crank.

convert to variated

thats about it... the last two are pretty in depth operations.

i must say its not every day somebody gets ragged on that hardcore about their scooter and shows up the next day with a real moped. kudos i guess.

also the next time you tell people to suck your dick you should expect to wash your hands of them, cause they usually wont help you after that.

Before you redid your profile didn't say you work on mopeds or something like that?

First off don't take the advice above. Read and search this forum like its your job. Find manuals for your bike, learn about two strokes. Learn how and why things change how your bike runs. Its allot, but your totally in to Venturi effects, intake duration and, compression ratios right?

all right thanks for the info and yes i went with malossi clutch pads and i had an exaust with an expansion chamber, also i want to thank all the moped folks out there for there help and for giving me another chance.

i added a 16mm carb and removed the factory airbox and slapped just a filter on it with a couple of pipes to make it fit and it is no longer bogging down, so far my top speed is 40 but u guys are right idk how slow im going it is fun. what should i do next??

i want to know how you got a 16 mm carb on a stock kinetic...

probably bs. id have bought a more reputable ped for the price of that kinetic (esp if he did buy i new.)

and i too would like to know 2 things: about how the 16mm carb and the "slapped just a filter on it with a couple of pipes to make it fit". pipes could mean he has reducers, but that would give the potential for massive airleaks and look janky as hell. this whole thing worries me. maybe gary's lil bro? he is a bro tho...

this guy is all bullshit.

This thread is done

Its got a smittys sticker on it.

FIRST OF ALL GUYS I NEVER SAID THE MOPED IN THAT PIC WAS MINE NOR DID I EVER SPECIFY THE COLOR OF MINE!!!!! ALL I SAID IS I BOUGHT A KINETIC TFR AND THAT I NEEDED HELP WITH INFO, THEN I LISTED SOME PARTS AS I DID THEM. MY BIKE NEEDS PAINT B4 I WILL TAKE A PIC OF IT BC IT HAS RUST SPOTS AND ITS FADED SO BACK OFF WITH THE INSULTS AND TRYING TO CORNER ME BC ALL OF THIS MESSAGE IS TRUE AND U KNOW IT! IF NOT RE READ THIS THREAD AND SEE THAT I NEVER SAID THAT MOPED IN THE PIC WAS MINE!

MINE IS BLUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this is all bullshizzzzzzz.

16mm =/= vespa/kinetic cases.

there are no malossi cluch pads for variated vespa/piaggio.

I retract my FIRST statement (6th post). Let 'em burn, for a little while at least.

Maybe he used his pipe stretcher to get it to fit.

I gotta go grease my Muffler Bearings.