av10 variator bar addon

so i'm doing some mild upgrades to my 51v:

https://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/7/130295/130295/

and i'm at the point where i'm experimenting with the variator. maybe remove 2/4 balls or get the malossi multivar (which is currently out of stock in the usa, it seems).

before i was going to go in and mess with the variator, i was wondering, does anybody have experience with the av10 addon that holds the variator at lower rpm? this thread brings it up

https://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/7/26899/26899/

if so, then maybe this addon would be a solution for low speed acceleration...

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Ah ye ole Launch Lever a wonderful contraption designed to keep your variated bike in its lowest ratio long enough to hit the powerband very simple very effective.

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its very easy to rig up one of your own. im not exactly sure what av10 exhaust mounts are like, but if theyre like av7 (probably pretty close?), you can just stick a looong bolt through the mounting holes, and snug it on with some nuts and washers. this will give you a very long "lever" to put your foot on to keep the engine in its low-gear position.

i rigged this up on my engine and it took all of 2 minutes... but i havent run the bike yet so i dont actually know how effective it will be. pretty simple device though, i cant see how it would fail.

if youre using the stock pipe, though, these mounting holes will probably already be in use so you could drill new ones.

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cool, thanks for the terminology. i think i'm gonna try this (treats has the polini one) before i remove the variator balls.

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not to take business from treats, and ive never actually seen one of those installed, but i seriously think you should try making your own before spending $45 on something that could probably be replaced with less than $5 worth of nuts and bolts (or free if you have spare hardware laying around your basement or under your pillow, which you probably do because you ride a moped.)

and if it doesnt work? youre only out a couple bucks.

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yeah, i'll take a look at the mounting for this on my engine. i found this thread...so i guess no one's posted the results of the polini from treats...hmmmm. i'm curious

https://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/read.php?f=7&i=113188&t=113188&v=f

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Launch levers will shred your belts fast. Tune your variator before you get once. I can only see them being effective when you have to start the bike going up hill, otherwise a well tuned variator will be the best setup.

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You can kinda see it in this pic

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What exhaust is that? Looks crazy!

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I've used launch lever for almost a year now and have never noticed in significant shredding or any increased wear and tear of my belt. It's also not really a good excuse to tune out your variator. Even the stock variator can be tuned if you buy the Malossi variotop weights. The screws and the weights will work on the stock arms.

-naz

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Polini top one.

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my main concern with a launch lever (although i have a home made one installed on my bike) is excessive wear on the moby flexibloc mounts. it seems like the shred up pretty quick anyways, and putting more pressure on them with a launch lever doesnt seem like itd help.

i guess ill find out though.

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i made one from a shitty puch axle laying around in the shop and some bolts, total cost.... free

mine doesn't really do much at all tho, if ur variator/spring etc is set up right u won't need one really.

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its good for wheelies.

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thanks guys...points noted. i will mess a bit first with the variator, then maybe consider the lever. polini is all i see in the usa...

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