Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

Round two of variator questions: Sorry, there are a bunch.

Alright, so the Variotop when closed all the way is approx. 15mm wider/taller than a stock variator? And people were saying they need to run a different belt because of this.

Question: If you were to run, say for example, the doppler spring, (which appears to allow for more play/depression if necessary since it mounts totally different than a stock spring) Would this (1)allow you to use a stock belt and still take advantage of the wider/taller variotop when closed all the way and (2) Still have room for the motor to variate without having the carb hit the underside of your frame? (due to the extra variation)

If not, and you do in fact need a different belt to effectively run a variotop to its full potential, what belts are people using? About how long they lasing for you?

How hard is it to adjust/change the rollers in a variotop, I know not as easy as a doppler or bidalot, but is it annoyingly time consuming?

Now with the doppler ER3: It sounds like the plates are prone to wear out rather quickly for everyday usage. How quick do they really wear out? is it like a weekly, monthly, or seasonal thing?

Does anyone know roughly how expensive the replacement plates are?

Is anyone out there using an er3 with clutch function? If so, you having good luck with it?

Bidalot: I have heard good things about these variators. However, it looks like you can’t get one with clutch function on it. Means you would want to use a clutch pulley. Some of the SF dudes were saying clutch pulleys were prone to fail/brake. Where and why are these failing or breaking? I’m sure they are right as they have experience with them. Seems that the clutch function still works the same whether it’s on the pulley or the variator.

Are there any clutch pulleys out there that still allow for the mounting of pedals? Or are you stuck using pegs?

Phew…...I thinks thats it for now. Any input would be awesome!!! Thanks.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

Bump....

Sorry!

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

💀Kim Jong illest💀 /

i didnt have to change belts with the variotop on a moby. dunno if that helps but, yeah

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

variotop for pug is the fancy one, you need the fatty belt for this one, the spring has nothing to do with it. doppler too, wide belt, any spring wont change the variator, varplus for pug uses stock belt, and is sweet as fuck!!!!

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

If you have to run a wider belt on the variotop and the doppler, do you have to change out your pulley to a wider pulley? Or does your stock pulley still work fine?

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

I think lee's referring to the multivar for peugeot. It's pretty much identical to the one that malossi calls varplus for moby.

Anyways, He's seriously right. Fuck spending all that $. the Multivar or varplus or whatever it's called is amazing and cheap. It's a standard roller weight variator (like what's coming on all modern scooters) that's indestructible, starts on a very small spindal and opens as far as all of these $200+ varios. Plus, replacing roller weights is waaaayyy easy and you can keep your already awesome tunable peugeot clutch. Fuck a clutch pulley.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

I agree....I think the clutch pulleys are a waste of money, was just wondering about peoples experiences with them. But when comparing the variotop to the multivar: what is actually better for increased performance? ( I know the variotop includes the clutch.....and is twice the price of the multivar) But on the multivar, doesn't it only replace the variator ramp plate that moves...and you keep the stock ramp that doesn't move along with the stock clutch? And on the variotop it replaces the whole thing. I have heard that the angle on the variotop plate that stays stationary is angled way different than the stock one, so even though the multivar has a new plate you are still restricted to the ramp of the stock plate that is still there. Where as with the variotop both plates have a significantly different angle. Not sure cause I haven't had the opportunity to actually look at the plates. Do you think you would get about the same performance out of both? Or better out of one? Thanks.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

listen to eric and lee. the variotop doesnt have a real clutch in it. its just a bearing that the belt sits on that lets the motor idle. save your money, get the multivar and keep your stock clutch.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

the multivar does keep the stationary vario cheek, but it works great. still opens up all the way.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

I run a clutch variotop on my 50cc bike with no decomp and use either powertwist or this different green belt that is much cheaper and works just as well. The bike push starts with no problems and is easy to tune. Just mentioning what works for me.

-naz

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

💀Kim Jong illest💀 /

even without a clutch pulley, the variotop ran circles around my varioplus. sure, i couldnt idle, but it push starts within a foot, and it saves gas! but really, it was super super crazy fast.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

just get the variotop with the clutch function, it works just like the varioplus, they both mount to the stock inner cheek the same way.

-naz

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

I think that lee is proof of what the cheaper vario can do.

Tuning that variator can help too.

Re: Variotop for peugeot/er3 round 2?????

Baltard Drought /

Why would you want a bike that can't idle?

Want to post in this forum? We'd love to have you join the discussion, but first:

Login or Create Account