MOPED ARMY

i had been meaning to do this for about a year and a half, thanks buddy!

Great job dude! Thanks!

I did a little formatting and changed every time it said "pot" to "exhaust." I don't speak French at all, but I figured that given the subject matter of the article and the number of times "pot" appeared, that was probably an okay translation. If it isn't, someone let me know and I'll go back and change it.

Thanks Linda, that was the correct assumption, I was just too damn lazy to go through and try and clean up some grammar. Great job on the formatting!

this is excellent. looks like the doppler, ninja, an bidalot still win.

The word was probably supposed to be "pipe". Did you try google translation? I find it _beacoup mieux_ than babelfish.

Actually, I did look at the google translator version, and it sucks too. I dunno if the French version just isn't as good or what, but the Spanish version is waaaaay better. Then again, I don't use the Spanish one to translate moped forums.

It doesn't help that the grammar/spelling/punctuation aren't perfect in forums, nor that these translators aren't set up for translating moped jargon.

I can try go to through and make it sound a little less ridiculous. I don't speak French, but I have English down pretty well, and I'm getting better at speaking Moped. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but "high in the turns" = high revs, "in the low modes" = low revs, "kits 50" = 50cc kits, "cylinders of origin" = stock cylinders, and so on and so forth. Yes? I mean, it would still be better if we could get someone who actually speaks French to do it, but since nobody is volunteering themselves...

i sorta speak french i will give it a shot

here's kind of a segway from this topic... Treats has had a _lot_ of really interesting looking moby pipes lately. only a couple of them are addressed in this article... the g2, g3, and doppler are really it, and theres a pretty good deal of info on those pipes already.

Does anybody know _anything_ about these other pipes? suggested displacement, powerbands, etc? Theyre pretty damn reasonably priced, plus a lot of them hard mounted instead of swingarm mount, which keeps shit simple. shit, theyre kinda pretty too.

if i had money i'd buy a couple just to try em out, but unfortunately that isnt in the cards... anybody know anything?

oooh thatd be nice..

take a look at a g2 or g3. they mount at the cylinder (via the exhaust threads) and swivel mount at the swingarm. when the engine variates, it pushes the pipe back and the mount swivels to accomodate.

the other vintage pipes appear to mount at the cylinder, and then hard mount to the original exhaust bracket. this way when the engine variates the entire pipe moves with it... as with the stock pipe.

not that the swivel mount isnt a good idea, its actually a pretty clever solution... once pipes start getting big like the g3 or the doppler, you need to have a mount further back to support the weight. but having one less moving part is always nice to keep things tidy.

wow super fail.

id have to see it installed but it doesnt look like itd hang too much closer than the stock blunderbuss...

all the more reason to try and get some more info on these babies.

lol that simonini looks like a pos pipe if u ask me

I concur. Notice the shape of the header? It has 2 very harsh turns in it and a straight section, very bad for keeping the charge flowing well. There is no stinger to be seen, the baffles go straight into the silencer and the expansion chamber looks to small and simple to be effective. The entire pipe is just too short. I think there is a reason why the simonini pipes were discontinued long ago, they are crap. Simplicity is not a sign of a good expansion pipe.

If it made more sense I think I could decide on a pipe for my stock 50V…

If you have ported it out to the wiki specs, run the Kenji pipe. If stock, keep the stock pipe and port it!