Autissa / Sachs 64cc ? take 2

I got a old sachs manifold out and started playing around with the kit and the manifold, and i am kinda convinced the thing was made to use the stock manifold. What else fits on that pattern?

You can clearly see where the square spacer is kinda rounded on one side to help out with the stock intake ( this intake is from a 504/a i need to find one from a 505/d i think )

Can anyone confirm my suspicion that this kit was designed to run the original manifold? I hope they didnt think i was gonna use a spare bing....

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Ideas?

Re: Autissa / Sachs 64cc ? take 2

Its made for the stock intake. Its flat so you can use the manifold off the C and D motors. And has a angled spacer so you can also run the manifold from the A and B motors. Simple as that.

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koolio

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is the c/d manifold bigger ?

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Not sure if its bigger. Its shaped a little different. The inside ID is about 14.5mm Compare that to what you have.

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yeah its a little bigger, i dont think its that big though, at least not on my C, maybe the D is bigger, but both are flat. either one can fit a dellorto SHA absolutely perfect. If i had the austisa kit i'd be rocking it with a 15mm sha and a painstaikingly hand-ported stock intake manifold. the choke doesn't work on most bikes tho... bummer.

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painstaking it will be, im gonna stuff a 15mm del under the sidecovers....

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505 intake face it forward with a 16mm carb. Thats what i did.:)

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thats what i want, but i gotta find a 505 intake!

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Rotate what you have around, so it faces forward and clip the edges of the one or two fins that are in the way.

The C and D intakes are exactly the same. The A and B intakes are actually a little smoother inside, but pretty close to the same diameter as the C and D. Open up the bottom of the intake so it matches the adapter piece and you are golden.

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thanks mike.

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I didnt have to shave the fins at all with the 505 intake. With the 504 and adapter it should be even higher.

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Things ive noticed with this kit so far. My decompression valve seems to be getting stuck open. Have to actually pull it closed. Think im gonna plug it. Running a pretty thick base gasket and ive noticed the piston has tapped the spark plug a bit. Perhaps I over tightened the jug. No air leaks and ive got a gray plug on a dellorto 78 jet. Spittin up gas I dont get why its lean. One thing I will say is my clutch is holding up well. I think this is the longest ive gone without slipping after a rebuild. Perhaps those clutches work better under high RPMs.

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Sachs are week get a puch!!!!!

just kidding!

but no really get a puch!!!!!!!

are you going to be pissed win my stock puch bets your kit?

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naw ill just get on my puch and we can see who will win. Probably still be you tho , magnums are heavy.

i didnt choose a little baby kit for the sachs for no reason. I just wanna run a delorto and do a reliable 40 on a heavy sparta.

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i was just talking shit i love foxi peds i have one i think they are one of the best looking but the clutch sucks i think i am going to but a puch moter on one

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yeah the puch transplant is an idea that has gone through my head quite a bit. I think if i did do it, id use a za50 so it had total low end, and id maybe use a magnum cylinder or a small 60cc kit or something, keep it tame but reliable.

or, maybe a 65 metra and a forward facing 21mm dellorto on a huge intake. I DO have one of those kicking around...

Wonder if the hot tip for doing that would be to cut the mounting bit off the frame on a puch and weld em into the foxi frame.

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andrew, anymore thoughts on this kit? you getting it dialed in?

Re: Autissa / Sachs 64cc ? take 2

If you flip the intake make sure the port on the intake and cylinder still match up. I did that to my D motor and if i didnt take material out of my intake it would have been a restriction.

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