MOPED ARMY

Corey the Metra 80 comes with a head dude.

You must be looking at the parma by accident.

If you do get the metra 80, you need to weld around the cases with alum and then machine it ( or dremel it really frigging well ) so that it will accomidate that cylinder barrell and the huge transfer ports.

It is not beyond doing if you have alum welding skills and a welder, but its kinda hard id say.

You HAVE to port match it, it cannot be done any other way. The transfers are HUGE

with the big metra there is no fuckin around with carbs, you need a 21mm delorto or a mikuni flatside or something huge and you need to make an intake.

Then you need to make an exhaust, cuase the metra is a flat port. Or you can buy a 200 pipe for it.

Not that all this isnt worth it, im sure it will go like stink..

But you might wanna try a less huge route - a athena reed, a polini reed, or a metra 65 ( which when done right with the 19.5 carb and exhaust can scream too )

Lot o work and money those 80cc metra's

Something to think about!

Adding money isn't a good way to get your money back. Don't start with a Metra80, it won't turn out well. Get one of those Malossi 62cc kits that Treats has from time to time, way less $$ and easy install, awesome speed.

haha columbia commuter to an 80cc puch. nice dude.

mind you the metra big port needs aluminum tig welded onto the case to provide a good seal, then it needs to be milled or grinded flat. also you need to bore out the case to accept the cylinder sleeve.

go polini, or mk65, or athena 70cc reed. easier install. and all still super fast. not 70mph but still super fast.

and i would start out tuning the stock bike first. make it as fast as mine. then slap a kit on it.

and it seems like a whole bunch of kits are coming back in stock, as well as pipes. take your time when looking around.

hmmm, that awesome analogy (similie? i can't remember the difference) really strikes me.

problem is the bike didn't run good when i bought it. it's in pieces now. so i guess i'll focus on the body and shit now, and worry about the kit when i put the engine back on.

guess there's more bondo and fine grit sandpaper in my near future than reed valves and pistons.

if it wasn't running well stock, why would an 80cc kit be any better?

If you are doing this all for resale, I'm not sure how much that would help. Yes maybe to an extent, but most people getting mopeds aren't wanting to drop huge cash on something done. Most people already into mopeds would rather build for themselves or are too cheap to buy really nice, complete and kitted bikes. Its certainly a niche market.

I agree though, maybe rebuild your motor with fresh bearings and electrical, then get it going solid (like 35 on all stock stuff), or maybe mess with some porting and get it quicker. Once you have some basic tuning skillz, you can just pop on a good kit like athena ajh or polini or metra knowing you already have a solid bottom end.

I'm not saying you couldn't make the jump, but I don't think most (there are always exceptions) who just go huge right off the bat get anything out of their $300 kit. I was shocked at how many metra 80s and gilas I saw at the creature rally that were not even breaking 50. There is a replacement for displacement and its called tuning.

Haha. Haven't heard the term beating off in a long time.

In my opinion, you don't really have to be good at tuning as long as you pay someone to do the welding and porting, etc and have the ability to get good advice from people with similar setups and jet high before trying to run the kit...

Even people who know how to tune blow kits up...

seals, bearings, crankshaft. then kit, pipe, carb, clutch.