Rear Swing arm from treats...review (pics)

Gunther McCilicutty /

So I am back to report the findings I saw with the chrome swing arm from Treats.

#1- no noticeable difference from the old one while cruising on level ground

#2- Light turn around a few S curves proved to be about the same as before traveling at about 35 mph. Slight, slight notice of back end is stiffer...maybe from new 280mm shocks

#3- I put 280mm shocks on thinking it would lower the back end, but it seems the new swing arm suspension connections seem to be higher than the stock.

#4- the BIG one. I took a corner going into my driveway REAL hard going about 35mph and I thought I could feel a little sway...so I did it again and I did not feel it again. I did some quick zig zag patterns and found no problems.

I would assume that since my bike is not kitted and no port work that it is sufficient for speeds and cornering less that 40 mph.

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Rear Swing arm from treats...review (pics)

Gunther McCilicutty /

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What size tire are you running on the back?

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Your bike is beautiful.

It looks brand new.

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ur bike is very clean.... nice work!

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Gunther McCilicutty /

Chip-I'm runnin a 2.25 Gazelle...looks like I can maybe fit a 2.5 comfortable

and thanks Ian and Bella/Elliot...it is as clean as I can get it. I took the whole bike down to the ground, took it apart, then cleaned it, put it back together...I now know this thing inside and out.

Rear Swing arm from treats...review (pics)

Gunther McCilicutty /

a pic of the "clean motor"

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Every single piece is cleaned. it looks literally like its from factory like that. I'm impressed.

Its an average man's build that looks pro.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

workin on the pro part.....baby steps

Rear Swing arm from treats...review (pics)

Gunther McCilicutty /

so back to topic....no one has said anything about the swingarm....thoughts/opinions?

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I was about to buy one, but then I came up on a Magnum swingarm on eBay. I'm sure I would have been happy with the EBR though...

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everytime i see your bike, it makes me want to go clean mine. I've never used the swingarm before, sorry. just wanted to compliment the bike.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

thanks Hula.

Mike- I was looking for a magnum before I bought the EBR. I did want chrome though...I guess thats what swayed me (shiny things)....however I want to kit my bike and I am not sure it it will be sufficent.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

the EBR may not be sufficient for a kitted bike

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cut those bars dude

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Gunther McCilicutty /

no

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Awesome - my bikes slowly turn from chrome to black as I clean and paint - yours is slowly turning to chrome.

Very clean, very sharp.

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"Cut those bars dude"

Don't go white-lining between rear view mirrors with wide bars, but also don't trim down bars you like just for looks. Rock.

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Are you in Pittsburgh yet? Are you coming out to ride on Halloween? Pardon me for not really contributing anything to this post.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

I like the bars the way they are...Not for looks but because it is comfy to ride and I feel better in control.

I'm not coming to Pittsburgh for Halloween. I was just there Saturday to get the rest of my tools from the basement of the house I just sold.

I will come up if they ever have a rally though.......

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Is that a stock front fork/shock assembly? Did you have it chrome plated? If not where did you find it? Bike looks awesome man!! One of the nicer maxi's I have seen!

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Tyler, it's not my place to answer, really, but I think I spot a tiny EBR logo on Gunther's headlamp ears.

New chrome. Happy chrome.

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G.M. - I didn't mention it before, but I can't really see why the beefier swingarm you've got should be _less_ suitable for a kitted bike than the stock one.

I'd suggest a test, but first: how easy was your shock swap? Are you up to tossing your stock rear shocks back on for just one ride? My thinking is that if you started with no sway (I hear "sway" and think "twist," no?), added a new swingarm and new shocks, and then found sway, the cause could be either the swingarm or the shocks.

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ᴛᴇʀʀʏ ᴅᴇᴀɴ /

that swingarm likes to break at the shock mounts, so keep an eye on it. watch for cracks and tears.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

Ty- The front is a new Mah=gnum EBR and a chrome front fender off a Maxi Sport. Bolted up easy(kinda) with a little bending and tweeking

Twingle- I may put the old shocks on and see if there is any twist. The shocks are brand spankin new and kinda stiff...

I thought I felt sway/twist when cornering the first time but I may have been anticipating it too much and my mind was playing tricks on me. To swap out the shocks for the old ones would take less than 5 minutes.

TerryDean- Is it the shock bracket that breaks/tears? I figured I will keep an eye on it for the next few weeks and see what happens.

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Gunther McCilicutty /

Twingle- I am going to test it once I get the wiring back together again. I undid the wiring last night again to see if I can hide the "rats nest" better. I am thinking that if there is any twist in the set up it would be from the swingarm since the new chrome shocks are SUPER stiff compared to the stock ones.

added note- I was able to "tweek" the swingarm by hand to be able to get the rear wheel to fit in the slots. I took the stock swingarm just for shits and giggles and tried to bend it by hand and it was much harder.

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Actually, I was sort of counting on the new shocks being stiffer. Before, though, I didn't see the possible connection to Terry Dean's point:

We know that the stress on the back of your bike while cornering is the normal up-and-down, hitting-a-bump force combined with a varying pull to the side (the horizontal component of your acceleration around a turn, the force of friction applied at your tire's contact patch, or just centripetal force - they're all almost the same here).

That sideways force is applied to your rear axle with your wheel as a lever arm, and would compress just the inside shock if the two sides of the swingarm weren't connected at the bracket. Instead, that sideways force compresses the inside shock, and is transmitted through the bracket to the outside shock. Cornering should make both of your rear shocks compress just a little bit (which it does).

So, we can say that the bracket needs to be able to take a twisting force that is essentially equivalent to the compression resistance, or stiffness of the outside shock. If you put a stiffer shock on, the bracket will be subjected to more stress.

Terry Dean: Can I guess that the brackets you have seen that have cracked have mostly been on bikes whose owners have also installed "beefier" rear suspension components?

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Gunther McCilicutty /

I would also like to hear Terrys statement clarified. Pics of failed swingarm would be cool as well due to the nature and reason for the thread. I was hoping to provole others reviews from people who have purchased the swingarm.

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I ran one for a year or so with no major catastrophes. I cornered hard, but not super hard, and I did not have upgraded shocks on it for the first 6 months. The tabs did seem a little weak, but I never had them break on me.

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im running this swingarm as well. it was a bitch to get the wheel in the swingarm, for sure. had to force it wider to get the wheel in it.

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idk if it has been said above me but put this in the wiki...

alot of people wonder about this

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derbeez ryderz /

you should chrome your frame

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Gunther McCilicutty /

Jon-O...I had the same troubles. I also had to ream out the holes in the bikes pivot bracket to get it to bolt on right. The holes in the swingarm are very slightly off.

Sammy G- I want to compile more feedback before this goes to the wiki. Right now its only a handful of responses regarding the swingarm performance. I still would like to hear a few more of Terry's thoughs

Human-THAT would be too much Chrome. I like color and Chrome accents. Plus the color on the bike is origional and kinda minty..

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