MOPED ARMY

FUCK THE PARMA KIT

stupid steel sleeve....i had to hone that shit and decarbonize it EVERY MONTH.

Not only that, see how there are no fins near the exhaust? it caused so much overheating and scoring (even after adding copper piping to cool it) that i just junked it.

the one positive...it had some decent torque...when it ran

terrible idle as well (due to so much scoring!)

Get an athena, its like 160 if you can find it and WAY better in all aspects

-Shadow

Did your piston have any holes in it? If it was plated it wasn't the same kit.

-Shadow

shadow there were two different parma's...you got the bad one apparently.

i like mine.

Casematched E50

70cc Puch Parmakit

Hi-Comp Head

20 mm intake

20 mm Dellorto PHBG

Malossi Hi-Flow Filter

Tecno Estoril

16x45 (I think...is 16 stock on E50's? stock up-front)

running an 86 jet right now, i think. needs to be dropped maybe one more size. idle jet is a 60, that definitely needs to get dropped a bit.

with tuning it should hit 50.

yes i am interested in where you got the different parma...it seems very similar to the athena

i definitely had a shitty experience with parma, but if they have other good kits i would like to know more about it so new people don't have to find out for themselves.

-Shadow

I wanna know about that 75cc one that '77 has based on the magnum cylinder... looks cool. (Too much $$ though.)

wrong parma noah.

polini isnt faster than gila.

we just know about 2-3 years more info on polinis.

I just got my motor back together after some MAJOR port matching to my Parmakit, my transfer ports dont look like anything ive seen on any other Parma's, they are f-ing HUGE. Definitely had to get additional material welded on. I bought the thing used and the guy before me actually ported it a bit, Devin from Motion Left said he wasnt sure about it, but I figured i'd go ahead and try it out. I am still in the process of tuning it (20mm PHBG) but it seems to be doing pretty okay so far. Im running a Boss on it and it takes a bit to get up to about 15 right now, but as soon as I hit ~15 it takes off like a rocket.

It does seem like the RPM's are a bit high so I got an 18t sprocket for the front just to see what happens.

BTW, I am also running a 70cc High Comp head.

i guess people suck at tuning. Only a handful of gilas/metras passed me, and I know I passed a ton of them. I'm not really sure what that says. Well I do know what that says but yea. Tune your shits!

Parma looks like a ton of potential, very similar to TCCD and others.

shadow, i got mine from treats.

yea, i havent done any porting on the parmakit yet, but i'd like to.

Without a doubt my gila is getting %15 of its potential. I am on the side with Tommy as in people don't know how to tune (IE me) I realized after the rally that my point gap was shit. Fixed it and now is back in business. Fuck a nice flywheel cover.

Totally nothing to do with parma.

I think the unreliability of polinis is just a claim that has come from numerous people throwing them on their bikes, not jetting it right, then seizing. Maybe I've just had good luck, but I've put hundreds of really hard miles on my polini and only soft seized it once, and this was totally user error and could have been prevented (spark degrading over time -- check ups would have led to an early fix). Since then I got a new ring and I've put many more very hard miles on it with ZERO issues. Last weekend we rode about 60 miles of mountains, and I'd say I did 95% of it at WOT. During the saturday ride of gender bender I rode from the coffee shop to the top of twin peaks basically as lean as can be; no air filter. This was not on purpose, but it was probably a good 5-10 miles at the front of the pack, and no issues. Also, why would you pay $300 for a new polini when you can get a usable seized one for less than a new tomos kit?

I think those who are scared to run all out, all the time, first need to get some better tuning basics and some confidence. Sure mopeds can be sensitive, but if you are jetted properly, they can take a shit ton of abuse.

here is a pic of my Parmakit and its pretty big transfer ports...

home is where you make it

you like to see homo's naked?

for some reason i wanted to quote that.

but tuning plays a part in every single kit. my stock maxi will keep up with mk65s and even a badly tuned, badle geared mk80. thats just cause i tuned mine right. to a T. i can also keep up with an 08 street mate until a certain point.

mind you, this was all on an open port stock cylinder. just spend some time, get your shit dialed in, and blast.

as for me, ill be kitting soon, with a cheap kit, which i will prove that you dont need a 250$ kit to blast. and ill do it reliably.

what we need is more knowledge, and less kits. do over 40 on a stock jug, thats where the fun is, trust me ive done it.

i think so too graham, but i also think theres loads more i can get out of the kit. im gonna switch out the estoril for your brothers boss this week sometime to see what that does, thatll be fun :-D