so... had this CRAZY idea...
what if i welded brackets to a 50v frame and stuck a ZA on there?
i mean, chains roll from any direction right? i thought to myself, "self, wouldnt it be rad to have that 54 tooth sprocket on there ripped by a 2 speed? hmm 25mph wheelies all day long"
am i crazy? your tech 2 cents?
i wouldnt do it, but i would love to see someone else do it. and that someone is you.
treats had 56 tooth rear sprockets for sale for puch and im prety sure moby sprockets bolt up to puch wheels
that is true
i think the two speed is more the key to this equation. you would have shitloads of low end, but i have a feeling that the practicality behind actually welding brackets and making them strong enough on a step through might kill this plan in the design stages.
it'd be strong enough. i'll dig up pics of my 5 speed 350cc powered gokart. geared mostly for torque. it could climb crazy steep angles. engine was mounted pretty shoty, but nothing ever happened to the mounts...
i would love to see that actually, sounds pretty rad. i'm going to trust you on this one with the strength and whatnots. do it josh. you have to get a bike going by november 9th. that leaves one day to tune. it only has to go 40. unless i find a solution to my pipe problem, then hopefully it will have to go much much faster.
The sheer danger of riding that ped makes it sooo worth it.
OK- I'll give you a frame for it. Been hanging on the wall for years, no motor bushings, so it'd be perfect for it.
What if you welded the mounts so it could variate too?
Two speed with variation HMMM?
Imagine having the clutch kick in and shift to second, then when you reach a high rpms in second gear, the variators heavy ass weights start to throw?
Backwards.... light weights would kick in later. (more centrifigal rotation needed to force said weights out.) Problem is, with weights kicking in that late, It would be hard to get the variator to open all the way. It would actually be very interesting to see the variator and the two speed working at the same time... I would like to observe that.
haha but could you imagine an entire za50 variating? that would take heavy weights.... i take it back. nah actually if you were to do that the elusive rear variating pulley would definately be necessary, as to let the motor be static.
not to mentions problems rigging a variator to a puch crank... wow triple post.
or rather the gearshaft... wow quadruple post.
whoa whoa whoa WHOA! slow down kiddies!
im not variating anything. i am welding mounts to a rolling moby frame. puchs just feel like flimsy twigs to me.
were talking ZA50, on a stock moby. so im wondering more like...
ive never heard of 54 tooth puch sprockets. outside of absurd torque, what problems am i looking at?
was also considering E50+metra instead of ZA50.
i dont know guys, give me some TECH
I feel like rigging a huge sprocket to a rear puck wheel is a much easier route. get a brace bar I guess, anyone ever have a puch fold in two? They seem pretty sturdy to me.
And yes I agree, the variating za50 is just a amusing daydream.
mobys are way beefier, sexier, and sturdy to me.
LOOK MAN, I HAVE AN ENGINELESS MOBY, I HAVE A ZA50.
I WANNA DO 1+1=WTF!
mad science at its best
Well then yeah, break some ground in the name of science. I would love to see that. I don't know if its been done before, I don't think you'll get any "tech" besides "rig it up and see what happens."
Btw. I instantly click on anything posted by you, I just know the thread will turn out awesome. (due to your credit)
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ive been planning on trying that for a while now, look forward to seeing what you come up with!
johnny
dude josh, i put a dirt bike motor on a free spirit, anything is possible duddeeeeee.
im going to modding a kreidler frame for a puch motor, as long as the motor mounts on the part of the frame that doesnt move where the shocks are (swingarm). it should be ok.
yes sir do it.
idea
sell the ZA50 and buy an AV10 OR sell the 50v frame, and buy a puch frame. none of this makes a lot of sense on a bike that has a motor readily available for it, and a motor that has a frame readily available for it.
reason
honestly the motor mounts would take more work than it's worth, and if you figure it out....a lot of people would ask you "WHY" PLUS an av10 is pretty much going to kick the shit out of a za50. top end, low end...middle end. back end, front end...any end. stock the av10 is just faster and torqueir, and generally faster all around.
tech advice
a za50 would probably snap in HALF if you dropped that kind of gear on there. RPM increase and all.unless you rebuild the crap out of it. this then...makes it too expensive and pointless, which brings me back to the point of selling/trading it to someone with a moby motor.
Doing things the easy way isn't the moped way.
plus I think he already has an AV10.
problem solved then, sell the ZA50. use the cash to make the moby kick some ass!
done and done
worst idea ever. Two speeds have a short life span when dealt extra horse power.
he has an av10, but he may or may not have lit it on fire.
agreed.
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