Yeah, I took the little circlips off the end then got a bolt of the right size to try and hammer that little tube deally out so it would come off. No dice though. If I was able to get it off, and believe me round two is tamary, I will fer sher be just getting a new ring. Any tricks up yer sleeve for pin extraction? My motto is if brute force didn't solve your problem, you didn't use enough brute force, but I am always open to suggestions.