MOPED ARMY

the screws are easy to strip because they are held in with little dabs of weld. unless you use a punch to clear the groove (where you inset your flathead screwdriver) of the weld, the heads will strip pretty easily. good luck finding replacements, they are not standard or metric thread, our best guess was that they might be some sort of English thread pattern. when I reassemble variators, I just tighten them by hand so they're snug and I've yet to have a problem with them coming loose.

oh wow didnt know the pitch was so strange... mopedjunkyard has em so thats good, if i need replacements.

now im im in the middle of installing a varplus. it goes on great and when i start it it rides great too. smooth pickup and much quicker off the line then before. but it rattles like a motherbitch! i cant figure out where it's coming from... ive tried two sets of flywheights, neither of which made any noises before, and its still making a grinding/rattling sound.

even though i hated to run it while it was making such a terrible noise, i took it around my block once so if anything was rubbing it might make a wear mark.... but i dont see anything that looks like it is rubbing or hitting or anything inside the variator... all looks ok. any ideas what else it could be?

huh? Oh, I don't remember. I just threw my washers on and it didn't have any effect on anything.

That noise could be your variator hitting the pulley, which is common with these set ups. When do you hear the noise?

ok... well im making progress. I figured out the noise it makes while it idles. i attached the breakdown ive been going off of so you can see what im talking about. the idling noise is simple: at a stop, the clutch drum (21051) is spinning while the outer flange (20683) is at rest. my flange is slightly out of round in one spot so every time one of the outer clutch pads goes by the bent spot, it makes a grinding noise. simple enough. thats why when i come to a stop the noise isnt there until i _completely_ come to a stop. so i gotta get a new outer flange or bend this one back into shape. no big deal.

so this leads me to believe the second noise that happens around 10-15 mph doesnt even have anything to do with the idling noise. after im off the line the flange is spinning with the clutch drum anyways, so theres no reason for there to be a grinding noise. so it sounds real clean until 10-15 mph... then it starts rattling. its a different sound entirely.. not a grind anymore, a noisy ass annoying fuckin rattle. when i go past that point it gets a little better but its still definitely there. not even 100% convinced its coming out of the variator anymore, since i know its not the same thing thats causing the idle noise.

the variator definitely isnt hitting the pulley, but what else in the variator could cause a noise like that? anything else i should check for? Tommorow i guess im just gonna go through my engine and see if there's anything out of the ordinary... i did just install a G3 so im gonna have to make sure everything is hunky dory with that. Anything i should look for with the G3?

Thanks a lot for the help,

-Steve

I think no one is replying, because it's hard to say in the virtual world, without actually seeing the and hearing the noise.

yea i know what you mean and that the word "rattle" is pretty vague, but sometimes i figure there are little things like you mentioned that are common with certain components. just gettin a little tired and desperate is all.

if i can find a camera or like audio/video recording device i plan on getting some footage.

i rode it this morning and have pretty much ruled out the variator. im gonna put my stock pipe back on and see if it still makes the noise, then i'll know if its with the G3 or not.

Just tighten everything down and apply locktight. done.