MOPED ARMY

Well, I can tell you that I have a 43mm kit, 13/13 carb, and a pipe and I'm only at 38 mph.

You'll definitely need the trans gears to get you up to that speed range.

I'm not sure what it takes to put the 46mm kit on.

Great, Is there a page where it shows me how to grind the crank and open the intake? I am not sure how to do this but If i can get some instructions maybe pic's it won't be a problem at all...

To go from stock to 45 mph+ figure on spending some cash.

General prices:

Cylinder $150 and up

Variated rear wheel or hub $100

Performance Variator $120

New Belt $20

13/13 carb $80

High Flow air filter $15

Performance exhaust $110 and up

Performance gears $170

Total = $765 or about $50 per mph

If you don't care about low end, you can skip the variator parts and spend $40 on a smaller pulley setup and save yourself $350. That brings it down to $415 or about $28 per mph. Of course that doesn't include shipping and other misc. parts and supplies.

Not really worried about spending that sort of money on my ped. It's sort of a hobby thing and will have fun doing it. Where I live there are NO cool peds around so I would like something cool and different just for fun :). So you don't think the Var. is necessary? It will just help me with low end? Why will it kill my top end?

My setups all have 64cc top ends and I'd be lucky to do better than 40-is without gears. With a 70 -80 cc kit you can probably get to 45 or better. You can go faster with a standard ciao transmission and a smaller pulley than you can with the standard variated gears. (so I hear) but it will take a lot longer to get there. I'm going the belt and pulley route with some performance front clutch springs on my latest project. I want to play with that setup before going the variator route again.

I have the malossi gears on my grande. They are slower off the line but they ad at least 5 mph to your cruising speed. On flat takeoffs they are pretty good but if it is uphill I usually pedal 1-2 revolutions to help it off of the line. That is with a 64cc DR cylinder ground and bored crank and intake, and a multivar with the stock malossi weights.

I have a variated ciao with a polini 64cc kit, shaved head, a polini variator, and standard gears. It takes off like a rocket but only goes about 40-ish (maybe). I don't know if it is drilled and ground though. That motor had the kit on it when I got it and I'm too lazy to tear it apart to find out.

Mike,

Are you sure that all of the keyed parts of the miltivar are fitting together properly? The Miltivar (malossi) is on my grande and I have to pry the rear pulley apart a bit and pull the belt down into the pulley to get enough slack so that I can get all of the keyed bits of the variator to fit together before I can crank the nut down on the crank.

I have the Polini variator on the ciao and it is a bit easier to get everything together and crank the nut down. Personally I think that the polini and the malossi perform about the same when you compare them with the same weights. The Malossi one is a bit flashier looking. I have to pry the rear pulley apart to get enough slack on the ciao too.

I have the malossi ciao belt from Treats. Other than it being kind of a bitch to get things situated properly, I have never had any problems getting the variator to work on my ciao. It is a '74 foreign model and it was a 30 km/h version before the variator.

On mine I used to have to pry the pulley open a bit and push the belt down in there a tad to get it easily over the front bushing. With the reinforced spring I cant pull the pulley open and I just have to muscle the belt over the corner of the bushing and turn the flywheel a tad so it seats on. Not too bad.

lay your ped on the side and spray pb blaster into the axle to get the wood ruff key lose. After i did that a few times the rear clutch comes off super easy now.

And it did make a differnce on mine but it seems like the bike will have to be running start every time. But my ish isn't running condensor crap out.

actually im doing the some what same thing except i got a kinetic.. but at any rate im hoping to put the 75CC cia speed kit on. But my question is how can i check to make sure my bore is right b/c the kit is 46mm and im tight on funds so i dont wanna go ahead and order it and be like f*** when it gets here lol

i havnt realy tried this on a mope lol but another somewhat noob question. since it'll have the head wil i be able to bolt it upto my case, or will i need to do some maodifacation to the the case?

So for the 46mm kit u need to bring your engine to the machine shop and have it bored out? that's it?

How much difference is there from 43 to 46 as far as power goes?