MOPED ARMY

Erik E here in Kalamazoo is running the Doppler cylinder & head combo with the doppler pipe and a 'stock' intake and reeds all on a 15/15 SHA carb and GPS'ed himself going 54mph.

http://www.la-becanerie.com/

They are a great retailer. I placed an order on May 2nd with them and I had my parts at my door on the 9th. Look in the cyclo section for the mbk 51 (av10) stuff.

I'll keep it going, however.

You don't need an Av10 to go 50+. Just the epic 70cc Parmakit for the Av7. I'm at 55+ with fatty 2.75" tires, and a stock throttle that only opens 3/4. GPS confirmed at Flock Yeah.

Fuck Av10's. I've yet to see one that runs 100% reliably. Plus their intakes are shit.

If I was going to spend the kind of cash to do a full build....I would just call up Polini USA and go with their case, crank, bearings, intake, and multiple kit options. Only thing they won't cover is the pipe and crab. But for about 500.00 you can get everything else.

But why, when the Parma is a 50+ kit anyways?

: )

lets face it there is no good option for mobys for super performance, the parts just don't exist. The 62 malossi is out of production, the parma kit is out of production (but can be reproduced if the order islarge enough), the athena kit is out of production. Even the parts for 70cc AV10's are hard to find or out of production.

If you have any of these parts ur very very lucky

I think a group buy would be a good idea if someone wanted to get it together. I don't think any shop is likely to drop $10,000 with a 3-6 month turnaround for a pallet of moby kits, but that's not saying a private dedicated individual couldn't organize it.

just to complicate things, ive also been told personally by the shlep at Malossi Roselle Imports (US malossi dealer) that they would reproduce the malossi 62s if they had one to blueprint from.

ive also been told this guy is a complete ass. whatever.

but the parmakit is discontinued? I did not know this.. i found it right here on the parmakit website, doesnt say anything about it being discontinued, but then again i didnt search any farther than seeing this . Expensive, yes... but definitely there.

I tried to order from that site, but I have yet to get a response from them. I need a ring.

Yeah I think the magic # for parma is 50 and they will make more, no telling how much these will cost tho.

Malossi re make is not an optin, if they need an existing kit to re make the tooling its not worth it the tooling cost would destroy the affodability of the kit. I wouldn't be surprised to see it at or over $300 once its all said and done.

Yeah - that seems right about the tooling cost for the Malossi 62. Oh well.

I think we should poll the boards and find out how many Parmas we could guarantee. I'm definitely in for one more (just in case) and I know just about every non kitted Moby owner out there would be in too. Doppler and Ninja pipes aren't that hard to come by if you're patient. Carbs are easy too.

It's the kits.

So?

And....Elliot, you were referring to 300.00 as the new cost of the Malossi, right? I found the Parma at around 220.00 I think.

oic, i read further . . . yeah definitely put me down though! i've got a le moped frame with gold mags i've wanted to make into a screamer since i bought it

'i dont think theres a moby owner who wouldnt buy one'

Me.

Av10>av7

On a 70cc bike that is, 50cc vs 50cc no contest though.

Ha - ha, Mark AKA, Finny -

Av10 is not > than Av7.

In fact.....the Av10's intake is so small, that it is easily outdone by the MASSIVE intake on the 70cc Parmakit for the Av7.

As I said before, I have yet to see a solid running, 100% - never break down Av10. All I hear from peeps with it are the troubleshooting they've had to do.

Av7 = reliable and fast as shit if you know what to do.

Again, if I was going with reeds for a Motobecane, I would DITCH the shitty Av10 case and buy the Polini case which actually has the large reed block intake....giving the full life to that engine.

Fuck the Av10. It ain't shit. My Parma Av7 would eat it for lunch.

You have to put Bret's moby against yours Ben I heard he made it to the 60 club. The av10 shows way more potential than the av7 once you get a 4 petal adapter it's a whole new game.

Compare that to an av7.

lets have a race once my av10 is back up. I seriously want to see what the parma kit has against a 4 pedal av10 setup, u don't need the polini cases just a polini intake.

note: it was impacted by a car and b4 that was the most solid moby ever. Unless the av7 makes moped frames crash resistant I don't see the advantage.