Denver/Colorado: The dude in pueblo with the peds

So, we all know him, or at least of him, because of his awesome bikes that he wont sell to us.

I contacted him on the 11 bikes for 1950, and decided to post up the e-mail, because I feel bad, and want to share my frustration.

Going to c&p from my e-mail, nobody flame him to his e-mail please, as I'd still like these bikes if I can get him to come around.

> > > --- On Wed, 5/7/08, Zachary Evans

> > > <zacharye5@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > > From: Zachary Evans

> <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> > > > Subject: Old moped collection

> > > > To: sale-670883971@craigslist.org

> > > > Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 12:24 PM

> > > > * CRAIGSLIST ADVISORY --- AVOID SCAMS BY

> DEALING

> > > LOCALLY

> > > > Avoid: wiring money, cross-border deals,

> > > work-at-home

> > > > Beware: cashier checks, money orders,

> escrow,

> > > shipping

> > > > * More Info:

> > > http://www.craigslist.org/about/scams.html

We'd like to offer 1500 cash for the lot. I don't feel that's too much of a

low-ball offer, some of those peds are desirable, but I know you haven't had much success selling them as single bikes.

I'd bring a moving truck, and a friend to load them.

I know you have quite the collection of old bikes, and I hope you'll consider my offer, as I'd really like to get the chance to meet you.

I'm part of the Denver moped club, we fix these old things and ride them around the city, as well as other cities. We've been to one Moped Army rally, and have three more planned this year. The bikes would be in a good home, sure to be enjoyed and used foryears to come by our members.

Feel free to call me, or e-mail me. I might need a day to secure a truck and funds, but that 1500 offer will stand until you accept it.

~Zack Evans

Mouth of Moped Denver

(720)928-6924

> > > ----- Original Message ----

> > > From: frank blasco <blascogojazz@yahoo.com>

> > > To: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 1:38:35 PM

> > > Subject: Re: Old moped collection

> > >

> > > Thanks for the offer,but actually ,you are

> mistaken,I

> > have

> > > sold every running moped I`ve

> advertized,especially

> > when

> > > the gas is up,up,up,thanks anyway

> > > From: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> > > Subject: Re: Old moped collection

> > > To: blascogojazz@yahoo.com

> > > Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 2:12 PM

> > > Glad to hear it then, I've had friends try to

> > contact

> > > you about bikes and fail.

> > > Offer will stand, let me know if you ever

> reconsider.

> > > ~Zack

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: frank blasco <blascogojazz@yahoo.com>

> > To: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> > Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 2:56:14 PM

> > Subject: Re: Old moped collection

> >

> > I`m pretty careful who I deal with,if your friends

> tried

> > to lowball me....that`s right, no response,I`m

> honest,but

> > not gonna give stuff away

> --- On Wed, 5/7/08, Zachary Evans

> <zacharye5@yahoo.com> wrote:

>

> > From: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> > Subject: Re: Old moped collection

> > To: blascogojazz@yahoo.com

> > Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 3:48 PM

> > Ahh, well they do often do that. You have to

> understand

> > that most of us find our mopeds in garages and sheds,

> > unkempt for years, and put them back together

> ourselves.

> > It's just not equitable to spend more than 200 on

> a ped

> > when you know you'll find another one for 50-150

> within

> > the next week or two.

> > Heck, the most I ever spent on a ped was 150bucks, and

> it

> > came with three spare engines (a motobecane). Even my

> > toptank was a hundred dollar ped with nothing more

> than a

> > rusty tank.

> >

> > The fixing is also where we find most of our

> satisfaction

> > with the bikes, so for most of us, personally, they

> > don't have much more value if they're

> working/not

> > working.

> > We're not shadey people, we're just poor moped

> > mechanics that like to tune old bikes and drink cheap

> beer.

--- On Wed, 5/7/08, Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

> Subject: Re: Old moped collection

> To: blascogojazz@yahoo.com

> Date: Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 8:21 PM

> Really? I started with a lower offer, and I'm out of

> the game? Isn't that how craigslist usually works?

> People put up 20-50% more than they intend to recieve?

>

> That doesn't seem very nice.. I've thing I've

> explained myself fairly well so far..

>

> If I make an offer again, it'll be for the whole value,

> I don't like to play the back and forth number game. If

> you'll answer the questions I sent after this e-mail you

> responded to, it'll help me determine if I'm willing

> to dump my savings into these mopeds.

>

> Obviously $450 is a big deal to you as well, so you can see

> why I'd want to know these things.. There are a few

> bikes there I'd really like to get to tinker with, I

> just need to know if I can get a few of the other ones

> sellable to make up for the huge hit it makes to my bank

> account...

>

> ~Zack

(The next is a second e-mail I sent to him, that he didn't respond directly to)

I guess since I have your ear, I might as well ask a few more questions...

Which of them are running/have been running this season?

What model are the vespa piaggio, are they Bravos or Ciaos.

Is the Motobecane Variated, or not.

Is the Peugeot a 102, 103, or TSM (toptank).

Are the Pinto and Swinger ones with a rear suspension, or are they rigid.

Is the badger a stock badger, or is it that one with the wierd tank that was on clist a while ago?

Know that's a lot, just things that might make it a bit more intresting for me.

~Zack

----- Original Message ----

From: frank blasco <blascogojazz@yahoo.com>

To: Zachary Evans <zacharye5@yahoo.com>

Sent: Thursday, May 8, 2008 6:51:07 AM

Subject: Re: Old moped collection

Huge hit to your bank account!!! wow $135 a bike is a huge hit,????I`m sure you`re looking to buy bikes dirt cheap and turn em,don`t play your "poor boy" games with me.not interested in your business

(And my final, as of yet unresponded to message, which I expect to be ignored on)

You're starting to sound crazy, Frank.

This is my Moped Army account, that's my rat ped in it. http://www.mopedarmy.com/resources/mod/zakre/

My e-mail even matches!

And here's a link to the Denver gang related posts I've made on Moped Army, I try to keep our club organised. https://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/search.php?f=1&search=ZackE+DENVER+-re&match=1&date=2008-05-08%2010:18:16&fldauthor=1&fldsubject=1&fldbody=0&x=1,90

It's such a long address because I refined the search a bit, so it doesn't just pull up every single post I've made ever.

Yeah, we'll flip some of them, but not like you're thinking. We sell to friends, never let a bike get out of the circle. That way they don't end up in storage and dumpsters ever again. About six of those will probably get sold for around 200-250, after they're fixed and well restored. Heck, we've got two of us putting money into this, and a third who has the time to fix it. The fixing guy gets most of any actual 'profit' there would be.

Mopeds aren't about money..

But you've already decided who I am, and you don't seem like a very flexible person. Hopefully someone with the disposable income will come around and put your bikes in his shed for you, so they can continue to gather dust and be forgotten about.

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) Cupermcnewbster ( /

opps. Sucks, but I don't think you are getting his bikes.

Re: Denver/Colorado: The dude in pueblo with the

nah, I doubt it, I wasn't really especially nice with him either.

Re: Denver/Colorado: The dude in pueblo with the

This guy really sucks to deal with, he has told me I can get 2 of his bikes and never gave me his address. And that damn suzuki has been for sale for like 2 years.

I will not even try to deal with this guy anymore

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