So we all know that the springs that come on the aftermarket 3 shoe clutches are crappy. Has anyone tried putting three of the springs from the stock 2 shoe clutches in place of these crappy springs? Does it work? Does it make tuning easier? Anyone have any experience with this?
Yes it works, and it does help. We did my friend's this way and it was a big improvement, but not as good as the orange paz springs.
Do you remember how far in you guys turned the springs?
Bump city.
Anyone got any extra green, blue or Paz springs? If not I'm gonna try the 2 shoe kind. Tuning recommendations?
how good are the green springs?
They came in stock 3-shoe clutches like on the Korado. They work really well.
ive got a NOS 3 shoe korade clutch that i bought
its got green springs
call me if you want it
i want it
Sorry Kelly, I snatched that shit up quick.
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Tim,
I've got a set of blue springs sitting around if you want them, they are yours, but it sounds like Matt got you the hookup!
Bring down to WhisKY Business and I'll take em off your hands!
I'll bring 'em, just find me!
on the 3 shoe clutch note, has anyone figured out how to tune these damn things? i have all three shoe springs screwed at level to the shoe. any suggestions? Example: 1 shoe spring screwed halfway in second out, 3rd in, etc? also jon, hve an extra three of those rings i can tke off yr hands?
Jose, from my understanding turn all 3 the same. I was also told to start from flush then do 360
None of the aftermarket 3shoes are pre-threaded.
i turned all the screws in all the way then backed them out 1.5 turns each
i haven't installed mine yet, but look up the paz spring threads. All those guys say screw em in all the way, down, in, compressed, whatever, then back em out 540 degrees to 720 = 1.5 - 2 turns out. Id start there and see how it goes
thnks los and coco. Coco im running a 70cc athena kit with a 16 dellorto. with the setup i hve and based on what you have, will me turning it all the way in then out 1.5 - 2.00 turns be too much? How is yours running?
heres one thread most of em i guess start at 2 turns out some were letting em out even more they talk a bit about the revs they grab at and what not
sry i cant post links
http://www.mopedarmy.com/forums/discuss/read.php?f=7&i=80056&t=79846
mine works good so far at 1.5 but i was wanting a little more stall im sending paz $ so i can try his springs.
i am running a used 3 shoe stock springs
Waiting on some springs from Paz.
Been a week already, anyone know if he's been busy recently? I'm sure there's an explanation but I live no more than 10 minutes away from ssf and was hoping to get them by tomorrow on my day off.
Can you guys elaborate on all the way in?
As in past flush? Or does all the way in = flush?
well there is forplay, then there is intercorse
lol sorry...... turn the pad screw all the way in until it stops then back it out 1.5-2 turns
thanx coco. would you have paz's info you can pass along to me so that i can order these better springs?
I'm currently working on getting my clutch tuned . . . getting real pissed about what a pain it is to get it in and out to make adjustments . . .
I've read the suggestion before to turn the screws all the way in and then out 720 degrees, but I still don't understand what people are saying is "all the way in."
On my clutch, the screw is a set screw, so you could theoretically turn the screws all the way in until the springs pop out. That is, once you get to the point where the screw is flush with the inner surface of the shoes, the springs have nothing holding them anymore, so the buckle and pop out. I was using this as my "all the way in" point, but it seems wrong still . . .
Care to clarify?
Is this an aftermarket 3-shoe? If so you can't tighten the springs all the way down on those because those springs are so lightweight that by the time they are fully compressed, they are popping out the bottom of the shoe. If this is the case and you have enough stock 2-shoe springs to replace the 3-shoe springs, you should probably do that. If not you'll have to just try some different tensions out for yourself.
Yeah, I'm using an aftermarket -- I thought that's what everyone was talking about. The whole two turns out from all the way in only applies with different springs though, ay?
Anybody care to describe how the perfectly tuned clutch performs?
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Yea I am completely out of springs for the time being (I have springs for the people who's orders are pending). I will be ordering more next week.
I am actually having a hella time trying to tune in my clutch as well. It seems to me you want your rpms as high as possible before your clutch kicks in. When tuning, the higher I turn in the spring set screws, nothing more is happening. I don't want to go too far. By setting them looser it will be a boggier and slower take off, right?
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