Air Cooled Reliability

Steve Davies /
canvas_junkie
Mar 19, 2008 10:22AM

Ok, Having ordered and paid for my LC Camino/Hobbit 70cc kit I've now been told it is no longer available so need a little help with an alternative.

It looks like the only other 70cc option I have is to go for an air cooled kit. I know there are a number of options available but my question is are there any cooling issues with these kits when they are used on a daily basis for approx 20 mile journeys and if so which kits are best avoided.

I'm looking for for extra power that can be used with maximum reliability as this will be my transport to and from work.

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Re: Air Cooled Reliability

Graham Motzing /
grahammotzing
Mar 19, 2008 01:04PM

the hobbit is probably the best choice for a fast commuter. the aircooled kits are more reliable than the liquid cooled, because there is less to go wrong. kitting a bike is a relatively involved procedure, most people cant even get the air cooled right, it takes a real pro to build a reliable fast liquid cooled bike.

the real issue with overheating is keeping the bike from revving out too high, the best way to do this is by modding the variator to let it slip into a lower gear, and by replacing the internal gears in the rear end to keep the rpm's lower. you can go mild with mostly stock and get a nice 40 mph driver, or you can adapt a pipe, find the intake/carb parts and figure out how to squeeze it in there, and get a really nice, fast bike. the variator gives them a beautifully smooth ride, really a pleasant moped.

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Air Cooled Reliability

Brennan O. /
brennano
Mar 19, 2008 01:44PM

If this is your first kit job, and you are going to use it for daily riding, I'd go with a cast iron cylinder. Metra kit makes a really nice cylinder for the hobbit. It wont be blisteringly fast, but it'll be fast enough for daily a commute. Plus if you seize it, you can probably get away with a hone and new rings.

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Re: Air Cooled Reliability

noogie /
noogie
Mar 19, 2008 04:09PM

http://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Honda_PA_Cylinder_summary

the original of this webpage was from camino-tuning.be and it reccomends the 65cc malossi...so that's the one i'd go for, for reliability as it says its fast and is also cast iron

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Re: Air Cooled Reliability

.Allen Schlung /
allens
Mar 19, 2008 07:33PM

If your talking reliability, just keep in mind, that kit seizing is not what you should be worrying about (if that what it is), but everything else. Can your bike handle the increase in horsepower and torque? All problems that have come with my kit, came with the increase in power, ie. crank snapping, clutch warping, cam snapping, etc.....my kit is the only reliable part of the whole set up. Proper break in, smoothing out edges of the kit, and running the kit with the proper fuel/oil mixture will keep any kit lasting a good while.

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