would it be advantageous at all (price, performance, availability) to convert my peugeot 102 to use bike parts for the wheels?
i was thinking of using a deraileur gear and changing it to 2 or 3 speeds. i was also curious about brakes (disc and V) and wheels.
what do you all think?
Great idea, send some pics of how it turns out.
-Curly
Bad idea, it's a moped not a bike. Would you use moped parts on a motorcycle?
Do search, there was a long thread about derailiur about a month ago.
Long story short, your bike weighs 30 lbs. your moped weighs 120 lbs. You ride your bike keeping an average speed of 12 mph, your moped 20 mph. Shits going to wear out fast or break.
I think the only thing I'd use from a normal bike would be the handle bars or seat. Some downhill bike parts (shocks, hubs, brakes) might be able to take the abuse but they are going to be very pricey.
Do it, prove me wrong, but please be careful.
the wheel part might be a good idea i been thinking about lacing moped hubs to alex triple wall aluminum rims cause they will be a lot stronger
my ciao will have a lot of bicycle parts on it, pedals, stem, bars, bar ends, headlight, tail light, chain.
magnomos uses pedals, bar ends, chain tensioners made for a bicycle.
a lot of things will work, i wouldn't use wheel pieces though. and what's with everyone wanting to put a derailure on their moped??
Yeah what dean said works too...
BMX stuff might hold up ok as well. Alex's could take it for sure, I've only bent a few of them in my whole life.
I'd be cautious on the drive train stuff though.
I like your thinking, but... bicycle wheels, (bearings) are not made to tollorate the weigt, torque, and rpm's of a moped. The issue with tires is weght load limit, and speed rating. The deraulure and gears idea would be awesome, however, I'm afraid that it would get torn up. How about one of you evil geniuses make an internal 3 speed Hub that is beeefy enough to handle some HP's.? We could all be doin 60mph, and getting there quick.
aheadset bearings from bmx bikes work great. bmx stuff is strong as hell, especially the crank arms and pedals. drive train stuff is going to eat it pretty quick, it just cant handle that much shock.
im going to try to get that done this summer relace my italian hubs to triple wall aluminum rims cause the stock moped rims bend too easy and they get flat spots way too easy BMB rims are very strong especially triple wall
them il get maxxis BMX tires that are kevlar reinforced they are stronger than moped tires and a lot thicker too
the Rohloff Speedhub 14/500.
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too many moving parts for me
well, if you're going to use bicycle parts...
My moped uses bicycle forks and wheels. It has a 4 speed Honda motor, so you know it is plenty fast.
I have 2400 miles on it with no trouble.
I have a 48 spoke rear wheel laced cross 3 only because I was too lazy to make cross 4 spokes for it. The 48 spoke wheel is 33 % stronger than a 36 hole wheel. I like Alex DM24 wheels. I recently found Alex DX32 rims. They are 32 mm wide and fit 2.75x16 or 3.25x16 tires.
The forks are Downhill bicycle. They are much better than ANY moped forks I have ever seen.
Don
what kind of forks are they? the bike i just sold had fox 40s and before that had 888s. i thought about using them for a moped, but i couldnt decide.
Are MAXXIS tires stronger than moped tires? KEVLAR 110PSI AND ALL THAT OR ARE YOU JOFING AROUND BECAUSE i HAVE SOME ON MY PACER AND LIKE THEM/THINK HIGHLY OF THEM
I want to weld a bigger front sprocket on my maxi and a smaller bmx sprocket on the back just to get more pedal speed. I think it would help me run the engine gear ratio that I want if I could pedal to take off a little faster or for hills.
OK. Gary Fisher basically invented the 'mountain bike' by bolting motorcycle parts on to a bicycle frame for the increased strength and performance he needed for his downhill habits.
Of course, you can use bicycle parts. it's a question of what, where, how and why.
If you just want to save money, there are a lot of crappy bike parts. Maxxis is a new name for Cheng Shin, which in my experience have been some of the crappiest moped tires in existence. However, they make some nice motorcycle and bicycle tires.
I have bicycle brake cables and derailleur cables on my Moby, albeit high quality ones, actuating everything. I have motorcycle grips, though. Bicycle grips don't suit my needs.
You can't put a derailleur on the engine driven chain of a moped without some serious engineering - all of which is easily trumped by a variator or transmission, which is probably why nobody has bothered.
Wheels should be considered for their designed strength - I would not trust most bicycle wheels to what my moped would put them through.
That said, a properly built wheel of suitable girth to give me confidence could, theoretically, be a bicycle wheel by design, but I haven't seen one yet.
In short, generalizing will get you nowhere. Post up the rims / parts you're considering, with some real specifics about them, and specifics about your bike, and then we can talk intelligently.
shit i have hundreds of miles on even those cheapo walmart bike tires and only had one serious blowout that caused me to crash and that had nothing to do with the tires mostly had to do with that i had about 200 lbs on the back and bottomed out the shocks and the way too long fender bolts went through the tire
i have no problem with bike tires besides you cant get big kahunas in moped tires
Hell yeah!!! mount that up with a disc brake and it's like buttah!
I've got bike brake levers that I took off my mountain bike on my Derbi and they're fine so far.
ok so your sayn mountain bike stuff is strong SCHWINN FOR EXAMPLE I have one with disk breaks and would love to put that hub on my moped wheele and weld on the bracket to the forks to give me front wheel disk brakes on my moped. Does this sound dangerous as all hell or not soo bad
Interesting topic . I relaced a Yamaha Towny hub to a 17" Peugoet rim (only rim I could find with the correct 28 spoke pattern , remember the angle of the rim dimple has to match too) I used the original spokes from the Yamaha and was real lucky the spoke length was only off by a mm or two (same lace pattern , same hub flange diam). Never finished the bike but I did extend the driveshaft and outer housing so it was a complete drivetrain. Point of this was , it was tough to find the 28 spoke rim . Also I've cross matched motorcycle hubs and rims over the years and it's real expensive to buy a set of spokes the correct length. From Benelli to Montessa to BSA etc . I did relace a Mt Bike hub with disk to a moped rim once and that works, BUT I really should have bought a better quality hub with a sealed bearing ,as the others have said there is a big weight difference , once you get moving there's quite a bit more stress on those bike parts .It would be logical however to assume that good quality Mt Bike parts should be plenty strong enough to handle a moped though especially a nice alloy rim .
don, that's not a moped. it's a really ugly small motorcycle.
actually dons bike has pedals so its a moped
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