milling a head for compression (DIY)

i am seriously considering milling my head for higher compression diy style. There was a post with a guide that says to take glass or something really smooth like that and put sand paper down, lube up the sand paper with some oil, and then do figure 8's until you get the proper shave.

has anyone ever done this before? I'm pretty sure I'd be spending less than 50 bucks at the machine shop.

If anyone has done this DIY style, how did you keep the head level as to not grind down too much on one side. Also how do you measure thousandths of an inch? it was recommended between .020"-.030" with the goal of .025"

Maybe I could put washers around the head to keep it level and not go too far. any tips, know-how or ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Re: milling a head for compression (DIY)

sheet of glass, baking soda and toothpaste mixed, figure 8's and yer done. In like 2 hours.

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Plate glass and emery cloth.

You can substitute a slab of imitation marble since plate glass is so expensive. Get the really flat stuff (no cracks in the surface).

To measure thickness, get a pair of calipers. Measure how thick the head is when you start, then figure out your target thickness. Check often.

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it will go down evenly if you keep the pressure even and vary the pattern you work the head in. figure 8's, different direction circles, rotating the piece. it's not the space shuttle, dont fret too much.

also I second the emery cloth. its cloth backing will take the oil/lube/whatever without dissolving and buckling like regular sandpaper which isnt designed to get wet.

and... you dont have to do all 0.025 at once. do 0.005 or 0.010 and put it all back together, jet it, and see how it goes.

measuring isnt that hard either. just need a stable reference. have some digital calipers? before you start and as you work put the head down on a part of the glass/marble without anything on it and use the depth measuring part at the end and use the spark plug land as your upper and go through the hole to use the glass/marble as the lower. make sure the glass/marble and the part of the head youre taking down are clean and you will get as accurate as you need.

hope this helps. have fun

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And you can get small slabs of marble large enough for this in the dumpster by stone flooring shops sometimes. Or check second hand stores for thick enough glass. You can find all kinds of thick glass there, if your timing is lucky.

Re: milling a head for compression (DIY)

I used a mini-mill to mill the head down.. it worked great!

-Naz

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Just from personal experience If the compression ratio gets to 15.5:1 or greater the compressed air has enough added resistance that a regular moped coil will not fire through it reliably

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Not saying I'd recommend it to anyone but I've used a oiled up cinder block to do the major cutting and then smoothed it out with glass and sand paper.

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I use a grinding wheel from a steel cutting chop saw. its about 13 inches across and is very flat. I bought it for $3.99 at Big Lots. I just laid it flat on a wooden table rubbed the head on it turning it as I went. It raised my compression from 120 lbs to 160 lbs in about 15 minutes and I noticed a big improvment. It might be fun to raise the compression to about 240 lbs and experiment running methanol at a very rich 7:1 fuel air mix and 15 percent oil.

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Has anyone tried this method of of first finding the optimal amount to shave and then trying that? Just curious... I haven't, and actually haven't check my engine yet, guess I will get a cc syringe from a drug store and give it a try, I had someone ask me to cc a engine head anyways so it's probably a good opportunity to do that as well.

The link: http://tinyurl.com/2rqhqv

-Naz

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I think I'm going to find some washers to keep the thing even so I don't make it lopsided. Also I'm going to try to find a new a35 cylinder head, and try on that one, so if I fuck up, I'll Still rock the stock.

Re: milling a head for compression (DIY)

I really don't think you will fuck it up, just go slow and keep even pressure on the head, and rotate it every so often. Thats pretty much it, you can pretty much check it with a straight edge when it's all done to make sure.

-Naz

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Ryan and Steve generally mill until the piston touches the head and then carefully file out the outer edges of the dome to make it not touch.

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Also if you take a compression test gage number and divide it by 14.7 you will get the compression ratio. And you can sand it down a lot before it gets too wild. Further, if you want to lower the compression you can add head gaskets or base gaskets. Removing base gasket equals more torque and adding base gaskets mean more RPM.

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washers are a bad idea. what are you going to rest them on, on the head? the fins? i doubt the fins are aligned with the face of the head and also you aren't going to find washers that are the right thickness.

another idea is to tighten up a sparkplug in and chuck that in a lathe. assuming they made the spark hole perpendicular to the head face. I know of a few heads where this is obviously not the case. but for ones that look close it would pay to check before you start making chips.

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When you are shaving your head just make sure you have some thin feeler gauges around to check if you have gotten wobbly, if you can shove a .002 gauge under one sealing edge it is time to start thinking of changing strategy because you are making a bit of a wobble head.

If you have a flat top piston that levels up to the top of the cylinder then figuring as you go is as easy as using a syringe of oil and measuring the volume of the head as you shave. Keep in mind that there needs to be squish _area_ so as you shave away the gasket surface you mak have to stop because the squish band is becoming too broad. You can remachine some off to recreate the band but then you would be working backwards as far as compression raising.

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supposedly somebody makes sandpaper with sticky backing.

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