Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Bob Chesarek /

Here is a photo taken from the front of the bike showing the alignment as best as I could. I'm using a Nikon D7100 DSLR for my photos and it will not focus at close range.

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Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Looks good. It has been a while, but I think I found that a slight bias of the variator toward the left is better than to the right, so the cheek can move. Try it out!

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Bob Chesarek /

Happy New Year guys! Connecting wires today and am having a problem with the brake lights not working. All the individual wires in the wiring harness tested good for continuity. When applying 12V to the white magneto wire, I have headlight, tail light and speedo lights working but no brake lights with either lever. The tail light bulb is good. I tested each individual brake light switch and I had continuity between both wires ( on the throttle side black and yellow wires for example) when the plunger on the switch is depressed like when the lever is at rest and an open circuit when the plunger is out as when you squeeze the brake lever.

Does that sound correct? Seems weird to me that you would have continuity with the plunger depressed.

I believe I have the headlight switch installed correctly (as it was when I took it apart) and the wires hooked up to it properly. On the double terminal side of the switch, I have the white double wires to the headlight and the single white wire to the speedo lights. On the opposite side of the switch, I have the black wire to the ground in the rear and the white wire to the magneto on the front terminal.

I have included the wiring diagram for your reference. Anyone good with electrical will hopefully be able to tell me what is wrong or at least something to check out.

Thanks for your replies! (edited)

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Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Douglas Mackinnon /

I’m working in rehabbing a machine very similar to yours. You’re a bit ahead of me. I took my headlamp apart a few days ago. I made a sketch of the wires that I don’t have in front of me. I recall one of the whites being on a different terminal. I think the switch’s double tab had the 2 wires sharing spade; one of the single whites was on the back. That would conflict with the diagram but I’ll look when I get home.

Did you happen to snap a picture of how the spring clips hold the glass in? I took them out recklessly.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

> Douglas Mackinnon wrote:

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> Did you happen to snap a picture of how the spring clips hold the glass

> in? I took them out recklessly.

Maybe this will help :

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

> Douglas Mackinnon wrote:

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> I’m working in rehabbing a machine very similar to yours. You’re a bit

> ahead of me. I took my headlamp apart a few days ago. I made a sketch

> of the wires that I don’t have in front of me. I recall one of the

> whites being on a different terminal. I think the switch’s double tab

> had the 2 wires sharing spade; one of the single whites was on the back.

> That would conflict with the diagram but I’ll look when I get home.

>

> Did you happen to snap a picture of how the spring clips hold the glass

> in? I took them out recklessly.

Just in case you haven't done this type of spring clip, it's one side in first with it seated in the center, bend in the other side so it sticks inside the headlight ring. Trying to push it all in at once doesn't work.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Douglas Mackinnon /

Thanks guys, it seemed too simple to bother snapping a picture. I managed to install all of them incorrectly apparently. When I picked it up all the springs jettisoned in different directions. Found 4 of 5 so far.

BTW, sorry Bob, didn’t mean to jack you thread!

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

I guess I’ll take a stab at it, keep in mind I know nothing about your particular brand.

It looks like violet is power feed and is normally shorted to ground not letting the bulb illuminate, when you pull the lever it lifts the ground and let’s the bulb illuminate..

You should be injecting your test power thru a bulb or a test light so when it shorts out you don’t let the smoke out.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Mike McScoutington /

Horn and brake lights are fed from the other coil (brown lead) so putting power through the white lead won't energize the brake light. The horn needs to be in play, or at the very least you need to have violet/brown connection to energize that circuit.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Douglas Mackinnon /

According to the sketch I made when I took mine apart, your missing a single white wire on the back, left side of the switch. I haven’t taken the time to look at how it works, assuming it’s like the posi in a Plymouth…it just does.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Douglas Mackinnon /

This is how I found mine.

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Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Brake light is on a sep circuit I believe, and may not work without the engine running and the ground strap hooked up if the switches ground to the bar, not 100% on this (someone correct me if I'am wrong) but I have the opposite issue on a Motobecane no head/tail but brake light works, I'am missing a ground bolt so I know WHY I have no head/tail. Just throwing it out there.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Bob Chesarek /

Thanks Mike, every thing is working now. I never thought that the brake lights would be fed from the 6V side. Like I said, wiring schematics and electrical aren't my strong point. The horn works, as crappy as it sounds, just an annoying buzz. While I was testing the horn circuit I squeezed the brake lever and I saw the brake light come on. Eureka! Headlight, speedo lights, tail lights all work on 12V and the horn and brake lights work on 6V.

The single white wire I have on the opposite side of the other white wires is for the speedo lights.

On to making cables for the carb and timing the engine are next on the agenda.

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Bob Chesarek /

No problem Douglas, glad you figured out those pesky little springs. Once you get the hang of it they really do go in quite easily with just your fingers. Good luck on your build!

Re: Restoring a 1978 Motobecane 50V

Bob Chesarek /

All the cables are installed and working. I used the Puch cable party pack from Treats and modifications were required to every cable for proper fit and function. I will have to admit that of all the throttle assemblies I have worked with over the years, the Motobecane throttle assy. is pretty wonky and doesn't return to the off position as smoothly as I would like. I may have to do some cable placement adjustments or something to get the throttle to snap back to the closed position better. Seems the spring in the Dellorto 15 could be a little stronger.

I did have to do some slight modifications to the throttle slide to accept the small end of the throttle cable. I used a small carbide rounded end bit to open the area in the slide for the cable to stand up and exit straight out the top as it should. I also placed a thin O-ring in the carb mount where it contacts the Malossi intake manifold to prevent any air leaks.

I also modified a cable bendy for the throttle side of the carb by using a plated brass 45 deg bendy from Treats and cutting off the cable receiver end, drilling it out and soldering it back on the threaded end after cutting it back and removing the plating where the cable receiver would go. Ended up with about a 10 degree offset for the throttle and a 45 degree bendy for the choke side.

Next project will be timing the engine. (edited)

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