Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

Installed backward? I mean does it have a left or right side

Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

Is this right or am I fucked?

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Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

Yup, I did it once, lol. Its longer on one side. It was a 50/50 shot.

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FUCK!!

My computer is having a fit and I cant open any manuals

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Wait I think I did have it right this parts list from Myrons moped site shows the long side of the shaft connects to what is labeled #4 as the left pedal crank.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

I swear I didnt find out until I had it all back together and went to put on the pedals, oops. Yours looks ok maybe

Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

By god that diagram is wrong. When I hang the long side of the shaft out the left side (clutch side) the short side (flywheel side) wont allow the pedal to be bolted on as it will hit the flywheel cover.

Switched it back again the way I had it the first time and now I have enough pedal shaft on the flywheel side to mock up the pedal and flywheel cover.

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Mock up the clutch side cover and the pedals clearance is normal.

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Ha Ha yeah I constantly second guess myself especially when building different than normal motors than I am use to. (edited)

Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

Noi are annoying

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The manual is indeed wrong, might be a good bit of info to throw on the wiki

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Also, the left pedal crank is off set more to clear the exhaust. But anyways here is a pic from the one and two speed service manual...

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Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

The long side of shaft goes to the left of engine. Note the parts diagram concurs with the service manual. Also, looking at parts diagrams for the clutch which is on left side of engine its on the left side of page just like the pedal shaft diagram. Parts diagram for pedal shaft is NOT wrong.

Sorry to say you have installed the shaft backwards.

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And one more...

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What matters is that the splines on the shaft are on the left side. With that in mind the parts diagram would be wrong. Do you remember how you put it together? Its been 4-5 years since ive had any apart.

Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

The splines are the same no matter how you install it. Yes I put the long part out the flywheel side. It was the only way to get the cover and the pedal to mock up. I still have to use the off set pedal crank on the flywheel side.

Yes it flys in the face of the diagrams I looked at.

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> cheetahchrome . Wrote:

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> The splines are the same no matter how you install it. Yes I put the

> long part out the flywheel side. It was the only way to get the cover

> and the pedal to mock up. I still have to use the off set pedal crank on

> the flywheel side.

>

> Yes it flys in the face of the diagrams I looked at.

Look again....splines on left side of case. oppisite of flywheel same side as clutch. Long side of shaft (within right case is on the left in this pic.

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I cant see all of the shaft. How can you tell which side is the long side?

The direction of the heli cut doesn't matter right?

This is perplexing

Re: Is it possible to get the pedal shaft installed in a Garelli

If you have equal clearance on both sides, run it.

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Roger that.

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Like I said I had it right the first time. The diagrams are deceptive plus there are three possible lengths of pedal shafts. The two speed shaft has to be longest because it would have to clear a fatter clutch cover than the NOI.

When installed correctly in the noi the longer end needs to hang out the flywheel side. When complete the shaft will visually stick out further on the flywheel side

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I have not seen many of the brown ones.

> cheetahchrome . Wrote:

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> Roger that.

>

> Like I said I had it right the first time. The diagrams are deceptive

> plus there are three possible lengths of pedal shafts. The two speed

> shaft has to be longest because it would have to clear a fatter clutch

> cover than the NOI.

It would seem that way but the parts diagram calls for a different pedal crank on the left for the 2 speed models. And as I recall the shaft was the same on the one speed that I installed into the two speed cases.

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> When installed correctly in the noi the longer end needs to hang out the

> flywheel side. When complete the shaft will visually stick out further

> on the flywheel side

There in is where the confusion is. "Longer end" meaning the amount of shaft protruding out right case during assembly (parts are placed into right case before installing left case) OR meaning the length of shaft from the offset splines?

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Ok Cheetah, I was finally able to find a definitive picture. When I took my noi motors apart I layed the pedal crank and its parts aside in the order that they were removed to avoid confusion later upon reassembly. In the background of this pic you can see the pedal crank assembly laying on the bench. Looking at that pic, the long end of shaft (from offset splines) would go into the right case. Looking at parts diagram, it is shown backwards. The parts diagram is wrong. Shaft and its parts are backwards but the order of parts and relationship to the offset splines are correct (with exception to pedal cranks).

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Yes that image was the only one I could find as my computer wont open any manuals.

When I asked if my motor "looked" wrong I started to scramble for a diagram.

Taking the motor back apart and flipping the shaft only made the offset in the shaft sticking out even more ridiculous.

So yeah this diagram is fucked and can lead to a lot of confusion.

many thanks for your help and for digging through your pictures

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> live ɘvil Wrote:

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> I have not seen many of the brown ones.

Here is mine... but it is a single speed.

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> cheetahchrome . Wrote:

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> Yes that image was the only one I could find as my computer wont open

> any manuals.

>

> When I asked if my motor "looked" wrong I started to scramble for a

> diagram.

>

> Taking the motor back apart and flipping the shaft only made the offset

> in the shaft sticking out even more ridiculous.

>

> So yeah this diagram is fucked and can lead to a lot of confusion.

>

> many thanks for your help and for digging through your pictures

>

> https://mopedarmy.com/img/alter/index.php?args=46a159463a16e8770637496382bea492/fit_to_width=800/src/https://mopedarmy.com/forums/file.php?6,file=226724

No problem my man. Consider it a personal thank you for all you have contributed to M.A. (edited)

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