Honda Express Performance combos

Jackson Coppernoll /

Hey guys- I want to purchase a complete setup that works well together (kit,pipe, carb, reeds etc.). What are some proven combinations? Is the MLM Express next level the only muffler there is or is there an expansion chamber pipe available? Thanks

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A lot of the Honda Hobbit stuff works but you have to modify it to fit. Making an Express faster costs a lot more than let’s say a Puch. I would keep it stock and find a Puch, Tomos, or a Hobbit to make faster.

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Most bolt on parts are going to require either a heap of cash or a little grinding and welding.

I'm running the shocko hobbit kit with a puch jammy pipe and a vm20 with a custom intake. It rips pretty well and keeps up with my hobbits for the most part.

Just do some searching and you can find some pretty easy upgrade options if you're willing to hack up some new parts.

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Alex Fredericksen /

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Don't forget there's really no way to change gearing so the only way to go faster is turn higher RPMs. At 40 my express is really screaming and they don't really shed heat very well.

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Alex Fredericksen /

I agree with Cameron. At 40+ that thing is fucking SPINNING.

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Jack Rutherford /

Yes, the gearing needs to be addressed. What year Express do you have? The 82-83 models seem to have more space between the transmission and the tire sidewall than the 77-80 models. The 81 may be similar or should be to the 82-83 models but I'd have to check.

I've got a IRC 70/90 x 14" tire on the rear with plenty of room to spare. So you could go to even an 80/90 x 14" tire - of course, no more rear fender, at least, attached the traditional way.

80mm tire will be almost 3/4" of an inch TALLER (overall diameter) than the 70/90 and over 1.5" taller than the stock tire. So that's 3.6 mph faster than stock tire and 1.5 mph faster than 70/90 tire assuming engine can turn bigger tire at same rate as smaller tire.

What would be interesting would be to lace up a 16" x 2" rear and see if I can squeeze it in there. But it wouldn't get me much over an 80/90 x 14 except maybe weight savings.

I've been at 42 on the little Express and it screams so much, you can't help but think that this is not a good thing

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Jack Rutherford /

The tecno boss pipe for Tomos can be made to work and it's super cheap and I love the sound. Just weld the stock header to it. Pretty decent top end but that's about it. I'm going to try it on a 2 speeder Express soon and see if I can get better low end with it.

En Fuego sticker included.

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> Alex Fredericksen Wrote:

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> I agree with Cameron. At 40+ that thing is fucking SPINNING.

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> Alex Fredericksen Wrote:

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> I agree with Cameron. At 40+ that thing is fucking SPINNING.

At 40 mine sounds like it doing warp 10 but they are a nice little ride overall.

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Jack Rutherford /

yeah, I've heard a few reports of 50ish on the Express. I can only imagine what it sounds like at that speed.

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This thread is pretty cool. The guy gets his express to 50mph @8500rpm by machining different sprocket combinations.

https://www.hobby-machinist.com/threads/honda-express-from-49cc-to-stroker-100cc-in-original-case.51918/

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