Ike of course at least I know that. And I had real tired springs when I bought the bravo. When I redid everything and had it all painted I lucked out on a nos set that was primed only and never ever run. It's those forks that I honestly thought were near as bad as the original set but now have revised my opinion of. I don't think they are a fork to hit speed at and expect motorcycle street handling. These new ones like the low speed mid twenties but also ride on grass or a speed bump near perfect at slow speed. They shine at super low speeds. Very strange and it makes me sure that the designers envisioned this moped for the low speed cobblestones of Europe. My grande will ride way more motorcycle like but the bravo is unique. I think they way I've been riding it of late is what it was designed originally to do.