evil electrical demons

Ok,

I have an old puch maxi that I have had forever... literally. 10 years ago or so i went through and kitted it and the whole 9 yards. ripped as best it could with my fatness on it. She was glorious...

A few days ago, she died mid-ride. Got her home and no spark. I have gone through everything. wiring check, ground check, kill switch check, points checked, new spark plug check, new boot check.

Is there a way to trace electrical using a multi meter to see whats up?

FYI the horn gives a half-harted rattle if i hold it while trying to start, so I'm getting juice that far yeah?

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...Check the tail lights and clean sockets replace bad bulbs.....Check spark ........Was the horn working before this happened.....?

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im pretty sure your spark has to do with the horn,puchy tech. i guess on long rides carry a spare.

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Disconnect wires from horn, and ground them. Then check spark. I bet it'll be good. Puch has a goofy wiring system that goes thru the horn for spark. Put a clown horn on the handlebars, and grin!

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On all of the Puchs I own I ground the horn circuit and use a bell....

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Fred Young /

So horn sucks. Got it. I'll rewire and see what happens. Thanks!

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Did grounding your horn solve the problem?

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sounds like a condensor

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Charles Cole (OFMC) /

Same thing happened to me a few years ago. It was the light/horn switch. Took some fiddling but got it sorted out. Only glitch I've had, with the bike, in 16 years!

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Fred Young /

no and yes.... sit tight and buckle up for an adventure (may be over selling this a touch)

I found though more searching a way to check for just spark. Connected the blue from stator right to the ignition coil and boom, spark galore! So i went though and wired everything again, with grounded horn. Everything worked but the tail lights now (and the horn, obviously). Since the ped now runs, I grabbed a voltmeter to check some stuff out:

Green wire 3 v at idle

Blue wire 3.1v at idle

yellow wire 2.8v at idle

grey wire .... zippo

My grey wire (tail light wire) from the stator is dead. So now what?

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Probably Fred /

Service the magneto area good chance without lube that the points cam followler made of fiber wore down to nothing and the points won’t open

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Fred Young /

points open... its running fine now, except for the dead grey wire.

Can i just cram the tail light wire into the yellow so that the headlight powers the tail light, or will the stator not push enough juice for both? other options?

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> Ken Roff Wrote:

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> Service the magneto area good chance without lube that the points cam

> followler made of fiber wore down to nothing and the points won’t open

I would definitely follow Ken's advice. He is sharp on these matters. A wise man.

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Fred Young /

Here's what I have... what do I need to do?

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Probably Fred /

> Fred Young Wrote:

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> points open... its running fine now, except for the dead grey wire.

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> Can i just cram the tail light wire into the yellow so that the

> headlight powers the tail light, or will the stator not push enough

> juice for both? other options?

No 21w coil for headlight and speedo 10w for brake light, 5 w coil for taillight

Make sure all Grounds are connected

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Fred Young /

Ken... which is which? and if my grey is dead from coil do i need a new stator?

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Fred Young /

Ok, so update. I ordered the 12v points setup from treats and like always it arrived before i ordered it...

I'll hook it up this weekend and let you know how it works. Should sort out my demons as it only has 2 wires. yellow for power and black for the kill switch.

Thanks for all of the advice and help

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