KINETIC HELP

so i pulled a kinetic out from under a porch tonight where it sat for 4 years since it had been wrecked. its a tfr, 96 maybe? so anyways, i put a new plug in it, new gas, it has strong compression, how do i start this thing? the headlight which had been messed up from the wreck was all taped up, i cut the tape off and discovered that there is a key ignition. i do not have the key. it had been all taped up over, so im under the impression that it ran after that without using the key. can you turn the key to "ignition" and then take it out? i read the manual that cosmo whatever had to download and i also found out there is a "decompressor", which i didnt notice on my bike until further inspection since it had been broken off. i mean, do you even need that? any help you guys have to offer would be great. lets get this thing poppin off

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I had one for a bit but I never really messed with it at all. I can tell you it has a decompression valve very similar to a Sachs, I'm not sure about the key, I think the only time I ever took it out was when I loaded up the bike to deliver it, but my Yamaha motorcycle you can turn to run and take the key out, what position is the switch in, off or run?

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The moped doesn't require the decompression valve, though it will make it a bit easier to start. If you have good compression, forget about the valve.

If you open up the headlight assembly, you can see that the ignition cylinder has two connectors to it. One of them holds two white wires (one going to the kill switch) and the other one holds one black wire. I know for a fact that if all of the wires are disconnected the moped will start and run just fine (this happened to me).

Do you get any spark? Check the CDI unit on the right side of the ped under the side cover. It has a small wire that connects to the underside of it to the frame via a screw. That wire grounds the CDI and must be connected for it to work.

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okay lets say i disconnected those wires in the headlight assembly, it has spark, it has compression, etc.. how do i start it? just run with it? cuz there is no clutch. or is there?

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by the way, when i was running around trying to get it started before, some of the lights came on. so thats good i guess.

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Leon Swarmer /

Kellyk

yea, its great that you are getting lights.

I don't know the Kinetic, but I am up late.

You say it has compression, and you are spinning the engine to get lights. Did you turn the fuel on?

night night.

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The TFR has an automatic clutch. To start it put it up on the stand, press down on the choke lever on the right hand side, and pedal like crazy. Once it starts to cough a bit, give it a little throttle and it should start right up.

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That'll get you a direct audience with Sir Zipster himself, who knows TFRs pretty well, along with most other brands.

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thanks dudes

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well alright. it has spark, checked that out. compression is good. it has gas. i have a couple of questions now though.

the headlight assembly is completely destroyed. it was held together by duct tape and zip ties. i cut them all off, and discovered that all the wires to the ignition were not connected. okay.

so basiclly, all i want is headlights and tail lights / brake lights. do i need the headlight assembly at all? i really want to take it off for now. is there a generic headlight assembly that i can get that will work? what wires do i need to keep for the headlights and breaklights to work?

okay. so after checking out the ignition thing, spark, gas, compression etc. i had someone hold down the choke lever (it wont stay down) and i kicked it over after spraying some starting fluid in the airbox. and it started for a second. after that it would die, i could start it up again using starting fluid, and even keep it running for a second by continuously spraying starting fluid in the airbox. so i guess i need to clean the carb. but how do i get to this thing? what do i do from here? help me out.

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Leon Swarmer /

Congrats on hitting with starting fluid.

You have gas but are you sure it is getting in to the carb? check for some kind of drain at the bottom of the carb float bowl. I 'm not sure this ped has one, but if it does unscrew it and look to see that fuel flows out of it. catch it in a cup.

does it look like it should?

Leon

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The easiest way to get to the carb is to remove the lower shock bolts and tilt the frame up. Then take off the two screws that hold the throttle assembly on and carefully slide it off. Then take off the fuel line and airbox, and remove the tiny bolt that tightens the carb onto the intake manifold. Then you should be able to twist it off.

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okay. i looked around the shocks, and even if i remove the bolts and tilt the frame up (?), i dont see how i can get to the carb. im lost.

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You have to put the 'ped up on it's stand. Then remove the lower shock bolts and lower the rear wheel to the ground. Once you've done that you'll have 3-4 inches of space to work in above the carb and airbox.

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but the wheel stays attached?

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Yeah it's connected to the lower part of the frame.

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