I know this is a long shot but who's got these and would be willing to sell?
Send me a message.
Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
i wonder.
i need a set too.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Maybe I should make a few sets of these
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
> MPB Dylan Wrote:
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> Maybe I should make a few sets of these
YES
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
> MPB Dylan Wrote:
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> Maybe I should make a few sets of these
I would buy a set.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Uhhhh. What are they?
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
I would buy a set.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
They are measuring tools for shimming. Needed for rebuilding puch za50 engine.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
I'd take a set. But that really depends on the price.
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> Jay Rivett Wrote:
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> I'd take a set. But that really depends on the price.
What would that price be?
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> MPB Dylan Wrote:
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> Maybe I should make a few sets of these
I’m pretty sure I have a set if you need references/measurements.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
> Shawn Skibicki Wrote:
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> > MPB Dylan Wrote:
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> > Maybe I should make a few sets of these
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> I’m pretty sure I have a set if you need references/measurements.
I also have a set, I’ve had them for years
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
I'd take a set
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
+1 for buying a repro version of these. I don’t think I’ve ever seen once for sale, basically unobtainium?
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I’ve got an original set. What’s the going price for the pair? Just curious.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
please repop them or send them to someone who actually will or if you can make a cad file that also be pretty frigging chill.
at this point, its probably honestly worth it to approach a machine shop to see how much like 50 of these (hell, maybe even 100) would cost to have fabricated.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Man I could spend as much as $80 on quality tools like this but dang it would be super nice to not spend over $50.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
I'm in. I'll commit to purchase a set. Let me know..
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Transmission can easily be shimmed with plastigauge.
The factory crankshaft shim tool requires you to use an OEM case gasket (the standoff and cylinder are different lengths). I drew a modified tool in autocad that allows you to use any gasket.
The standoff and cylinder need to be precision machined/ground. I think it would likely be cheaper to buy two machinist blocks and a nice depth gauge (also a much more versatile option/tool).
Would need a large run of 50-100 to bring cost down (unless someone is willing to work for cheap). (edited)
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
How important is it that the tool is made out of aluminum/steel? From my observation the only thing that could possibly be suspect is the set screw, but I've never seen or used one so I'm ready to be wrong. I could probably get these printed pretty damn cheap in the nylon that we've used to make some wicked intakes, if that would work
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I don't think that would be possible (though I know nothing of 3D printing resolution).
The tool needs to measure accurately enough to keep endfloat in spec (.05-.15mm). (edited)
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> I don't think that would be possible (though I know nothing of 3D
> printing resolution).
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> The tool needs to measure accurately enough to keep endfloat in spec
> (.05-.15mm).
Yeah I was thinking HP MJF but it's dimensional accuracy is like +/- 0.2mm so I guess that won't work
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I’m looking into it, I got a few ideas to keeps cost down but they will never be 50$ cheap. I have a machine shop in my barn so thinking I can do most of it myself to keep cost down ie not painting and what not.
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
> Alek . Wrote:
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> Transmission can easily be shimmed with plastigauge.
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> The factory crankshaft shim tool requires you to use an OEM case gasket
> (the standoff and cylinder are different lengths). I drew a modified
> tool in autocad that allows you to use any gasket.
>
> The standoff and cylinder need to be precision machined/ground. I think
> it would likely be cheaper to buy two machinist blocks and a nice depth
> gauge (also a much more versatile option/tool).
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> Would need a large run of 50-100 to bring cost down (unless someone is
> willing to work for cheap).
Why does an OEM case gasket need to be used? Doesn't the cylinder have infinite adjustability with the setscrew?
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
Based on the service manual instructions - I think it accounts for the compression of the gasket. The standoff and cylinder are different dimensions. With the factory tool, 'the specified endfloat is obtained when the crankshaft slightly touches the gauge with the gauge pressed firmly on the gasket".
I like using machinist blocks and a depth gauge. You can find some really nice ones second hand. (edited)
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> Alek . Wrote:
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> Based on the service manual instructions - I think it accounts for the
> compression of the gasket. The standoff and cylinder are different
> dimensions. With the factory tool, 'the specified endfloat is obtained
> when the crankshaft slightly touches the gauge with the gauge pressed
> firmly on the gasket".
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> I like using machinist blocks and a depth gauge. You can find some
> really nice ones second hand.
If I remember correctly you just have to put the gasket on the cases when your measuring with the tool but I could be wrong it’s been awhile,
123 blocks are a good idea but depth gauges are usually not cheap even second hand, then you have to worry about how accurate they are. At my work I can send measuring tool out to get rebuilt or calibrated
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
True but the price is offset by their utility. I found a Mitutoyo for 15 shipped on ebay. Only 40-80 bucks for calibration if you're worried about it.
Now that I think about it - The service manual calls for a depth gauge to ensure bearing races are seated properly anyways. (edited)
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
A depth gauge and blocks is doable, but this tool makes the job indefinitely simpler and easier. Essentially removes the possibility of user error, if it’s manufactured and then used properly, which is crucial with the Za50.
I once read that the factory tool is nothing more than a precise, mechanical version of comparing 2 measurements with your fingers. It’s super simple, but genius really.
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> Jay Rivett Wrote:
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> Man I could spend as much as $80 on quality tools like this but dang it
> would be super nice to not spend over $50.
This really made me chuckle
Re: Want to Buy. These puch factory tools
I would love to buy a set of factory ones or remakes. If you have some for sale DM me! Thanks
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