tent degradation

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

So I got out some of my camping stuff today and found that one of my tents was all sticky. I thought that maybe something got spilled on it. It was actually only the fly that was sticky, the tent was fine. The fly was all stuck to itself, and was really sticky to touch, so I set it up on some lawn chairs and hosed it down in the back yard, and left it in the sun for a while. Well it remained sticky as fuck, so i stretched it all out and got in in place, and then went in to check the googles.

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/restoring-a-shelter-with-a-degraded-pu-coating/

https://advrider.com/f/threads/my-tent-is-sticky-no-smartass-responses-please.504339/

Turns out, the coatings used 20 yrs ago don't last forever, even though this tent was stored inside in a closet, it is pretty fucked up now. I have to try to fix this. can't be that hard, right?

Has any one else had to deal with this degradation of their vintage camping gear? Did it work? (edited)

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Is the fly metal or plastic? You can try rubbing bar soap on it to lube the zipper and keep it from sticking in the future. Wax will also work.

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Pretty fly for a white guy.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

No, I don't mean a fly, like a zipper, I mean the outer rain fly. Its nylon with some type of coating that keeps it waterproof, this coating degrades and gets sticky, i guess. The tent itself is just plain nylon, no coating, no sticky. I never knew this was a thing. I honestly thought that a tent stored in a closet would last forever.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Try soaking in soapy water to strip the goo off and then when dry seal it with camping silicone waterproofing spray. Wash the tent part too and seam seal it. Camping supply places sell those items.

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I have one that did this too. I figured maybe it was from storing it in a room that got too hot. The solution ifound was a new tent, but I did keep the old one. Just couldn't throw out the old one when it seemed fixable.

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> Jared Rut Wrote:

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> I have one that did this too. I figured maybe it was from storing it in

> a room that got too hot. The solution ifound was a new tent, but I did

> keep the old one. Just couldn't throw out the old one when it seemed

> fixable.

Yeah I have had a few old tents do this. They get sticky and smell funny. I also just replaced it. I dont sleep in a tent very often now and got a cheap china pop tent. It's like an umbrella and just pops right up haha.

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Pushrod Fifty /

I have 3 Eureka tents that I brought in the 90s and they are still in good shape. I wash them in laundary soap in a big galvanized tub and seal seal them once in a while. My large dome is about 10' dia and 6' height, brought in tbe early 90s and used it a hunderd times, its our family camping tent. My 2 person backpacking Sunrise tent, used it to hike the AT and many other hiking and island camping trips, and my ultralight 1 person tent, used for motorcycle camping. The Eureka tents were a little pricey at the tine but they have held up well after 30-35 years of use.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

I have this 1- man, also have a few Eurekas but they seemed fine, just a bit musty smell, but they were fine after I set them up and aired them out. . I'm going to do a wash on the yellow one tomorrow.

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Dirty30 Dillon /

Putting them away even slightly wet can start this process. I also never bothered to fix this. Sucks, but I wasn't about to trust a resealed tent on a hike-in weekend.

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This is a perfect time to switch to a camp hammock.

I bought one for motorcycle trips and will NEVER go back to a tent.

The hammock packs down to the size of a toilet paper roll.

I use a cheap little tarp as a rain fly only when it’s raining. Look up at the stars through the mosquito netting otherwise.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Thats prefect for moped camping, I like to get everything inside of a backpack, stash tbe bike, hike out to find a secluded site to set up in.

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I've never even heard of this happening and i've camped a lot.

Anyway, just buy a new tent.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Thats a North face 4 season tent not some shitty walmart thing.

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I always buy pretty cheap tents because i know they won't last forever.

Even at scouting where we used expensive tents, we still threw them away after 10/20 years. Tents aren't made to last.

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> Bas Autowas Wrote:

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> I always buy pretty cheap tents because i know they won't last forever.

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> Even at scouting where we used expensive tents, we still threw them away

> after 10/20 years. Tents aren't made to last.

I have a pabst blue ribbon tent also that works just fine. Not waterproof by any means but something to pass out in

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

well, I'm fine with this tent becoming a fair weather backyard/car camping tent. It was a great tent, have tons of memories using this tent. Anyway, I'm much more likely to use the one man tent going forward. I'm just going to get the sticky off of it first, I got it soaking now. I read that I might have to use isopropyl alchohol to get off all the coating. That would suck, but do-able I guess. At that point the rain fly would be no longer waterproof, but I'm going to worry about that later.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

I might actually try this:

"SOFT OR STICKY TENT FABRIC PU COATINGS. Here is the only possible treatment for this problem of old age softening of PU coatings. Carefully separate fabric layers if they have 'blocked' together. It may not be possible to do this without some coating damage. Set your domestic iron on cotton, non-steam. With a piece of clean photocopy paper (80gsm or heavier) always between the iron and the fabric, work carefully over all the fabric. Keep moving to avoid excessive heating. Ironing will harden the coating and drive out moisture. If parts of the coating are damaged or missing (hold the fabric up to the light to see this most easily) it is possible to smear Seamgrip® over these areas. If they are extensive this may not be practical. Whether you Seamgrip or not, finish by spraying the coated face of the fabric with a silicon or Teflon based water repellent. Your specialist outdoor store will have a suitable product. As you should always do, store the tent unrolled, coated sides out to minimise self contact."

found on the web, worth a try maybe. Right now, it is soaking in warm water and liquid dish detergent, as per the web, but its sticking to itself quite badly. If it weren't for the virus I would bring it to a laundromat.

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"Thats a North face 4 season tent not some shitty walmart thing."

My tent that did this was also not some cheaper tent it was a Sierra designs 4 season. Funny all of my other cheaper tents have seasoned fine though the years.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

I may just roll this thing up into a big gummy ball and kick it over the fence.

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Hammock?

All it needs is trees.

Or two solid objects 10-12’ apart.

If you haven’t spent a night in one, you need to.

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I've slept in a hammock numerous times and i never liked it. It's also barely a substitute for a tent.

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Bas!

I thought we were homies.

How can you not like a hammock?

Unless your butt got cold on a chilly night.

Not tent poles, stakes, ground cover, sleeping pad or air mattress.

Hammocks are the way of the future. I sleep like a well fed baby in one.

10 days on a motorcycle with just a backpack. Minimalist for sure but also more comfort.

I’m a side sleeper. Sometimes on my back I get sleep paralysis but that’s never happened in a hammock. Just some crazy lucid dreams.

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> Jared Rut Wrote:

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> "Thats a North face 4 season tent not some shitty walmart thing."

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> My tent that did this was also not some cheaper tent it was a Sierra

> designs 4 season. Funny all of my other cheaper tents have seasoned

> fine though the years.

Mine was a Sierra designs also. Had another pretty nice ll bean tent and I was climbing out and tripped and ripped the zipper. When I left the campground I tossed it in the dumpster and never got a nice tent again.

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I guess hammocks are not for everyone.

It's almost always cold at night in the Netherlands, so there's that, and my back always hurts (a lot) when I've slept in a hammock.

For lightweight travel i prefer sleeping on a thin foam mat in a makeshift tent like this.

If i ever go hiking again i'll probably buy one of those fancy 1 person tents.

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Those look compact. For sure.

Foam pads kill my back and I’m usually cold on cold ground. Winter or mountains.

I haven’t used a hammock below 45*F. But my butt did get chilly. I put my leather riding gear on the bottom and sleep on that. Helps a lot.

Not trying to hijack this thread too hard. Wanted the OP to consider it though.

Tents definitely have their place. I’ve woke up to boots full of slugs with the hammock setup. Could be worse critters in other places.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Before you trash it, pm me.

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Yeah I had a really expensive tent do this, bummer city, couldn't figure out how to fix it so I ended up throwing it away. Always figured it was from storing it slightly damp.

My wife and I have been using this shitty Walmart tent for like 10 years, someone gave it to us. It don't leak at all, it's really easy to set up... I keep saying I'm going to get a new one but this one won't frickin die.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot /

So after I hand washed it in a tub, it was a disaster to handle. it was a sticky mess. I stretched it out in the grass and pulled it all apart from itself and tried to hose it off, but it was a bitch, as it dried a little it got better, but it was a basket case. i had no option other than to stretch it over the to tent to prevent it from sticking all to itself in a gummy clusterfuck. I left it there now to bake in the sun.

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Pushrod Fifty /

Sounds like a mess.

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