Re: Push for 15% Ethanol in Gas approved by Feds

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

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> Ethanol is just a waste of taxpayer money. Grow the food...feed the

> world...……..not the cars. Stupid greenie ideas like this are what's

> ruining San Fran and Los Angeles. LOL!

There's no shortage of food. that concern hasnt materialized as farmers shift cropland to corn for ethanol. we dont displace food production to make ethanol, rather the problem it "solves" is that food isnt a big enough market for all the corn. So for corn farmers to make more money they need more markets. corn lobbies for subsidy to make corn ethanol.

That said Ethanol totally CAN be beneficial to the environment even when you include all of the details of transportation and growing, land displacement etc etc. It's actually very easy to find that data. like would take you less time than promoting the same tired falsehood that it's all a wash. Interestingly the biggest factor isnt the farming equipment or transportation, it's just the land displacement that could otherwise be unused land. replacing that land with cornfields has a the big impact. along the decomposition impact of the stalks combined with fertilizer and manure use. Still it's only fractionally (like 1/60th) the impact of say - eating beef. but folks like to laugh off the very real impact of "cow farts", and only consider farming impacts when it relates (again only a tiny amount) to something you dislike...

You dont need corn or sugar though. corn's actually pretty inefficient source of ethanol.

one advantage it's nontoxic so spilling it, dumping it out in your backyard whatever is pretty harmless.

mileage is less. emissions are less. overall impact vs gasoline these arent really the driving considerations. it supports domestic fuel supply and it supports corn farmers who maintain powerful lobbying impact in government.

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  Push for 15% Ethanol in Gas approved by FedsTopic by: Pushrod Fifty Pushrod Fifty 02/19/20 05:49PM
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