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Yeah, that's how skewed their thinking has become, Pop. How anyone can take up for those intolerant to women rascals I'll never know. They need to arm all the women in Iran. LOL!

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Well they seem to think i am too old and dumb to know how th economy works..i shouldn't think trump did the right thing by shutting them down at the border.it wouldn't have been too expensive to feed them ,house them,medical,crime rate going up .i guess i should understand they will say it wouldn't cost the american people anything because it would all be paid with FREE government money ......lol...i really feel they think that way..he could have just closed his eyes to the crooked trade deals we were in and they would just go away..wasn't hurting the economy any way..lol..open your eyes folks ...i wonder if they know where that free government comes from..i heard was the keebler elves... (edited)

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The two of you should really put a comedy show together in Branson

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Well maybe you people will grow up.to understand the real world one

> day..so you think we should have allowed the border to be over run?

> ..you think we shoukd have just gone on with the trade practices ...you

> think we should let the terroists keep building momentum..you think we

> should let the neuclear bombs be built and threatened to be sent to the

> us ..you people amaze me ...whooooooo else has done anything about any

> of it ...you say befriended kim jong...thats actually funny ...he didnt

> take anythng off kim jong...he basicly told him to shut up or he would

> send a missel up his ass ...if you noticed he backed off ..he was afraid

> to turn around and run because he didn't want to turn his ass because he

> was afraid trump would do what he said...as for befriending him or any

> others.it's better once you get their attention to stop and talk it over

> rather than keep escalating the tention ..i am sure you can't understand

> that.

You still dont get it do you???

Just think, it could of all been done in a more diplomatic way without acting like a red-headed heathen stepchild. I personally dont want any public figure representing me to the rest of the world like that. What if Kim Jung was a bigger asshole?? The world as we know it might not be here now. Never said I was opposed to a border wall, other than when the day comes that wall is used to keep anyone from leaving the dictatorship thats coming to this country. Having a legitimate terrorists threat removed is great. But please dont boast about it and stir the mid east up any more. Is your feeble mind not understanding any of this??? His actions and behavior shows that he thinks hes above any law or oath. Hes a fucking asshole no matter what hes done. Its how hes behaved since 1989. Do you really think any other world leaders truly respect him???

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> Potr zebie Wrote:

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> The two of you should really put a comedy show together in Branson

Its Don and his troll account.

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Well they seem to think i am too old and dumb to know how th economy

> works..i shouldn't think trump did the right thing by shutting them down

> at the border.it wouldn't have been too expensive to feed them ,house

> them,medical,crime rate going up .i guess i should understand they will

> say it wouldn't cost the american people anything because it would all

> be paid with FREE government money ......lol...i really feel they think

> that way..he could have just closed his eyes to the crooked trade deals

> we were in and they would just go away..wasn't hurting the economy any

> way..lol..open your eyes folks ...i wonder if they know where that free

> government comes from..i heard was the keebler elves...

"Worked" , as in past tense, in reference to economics as already pointed out by another individual. And politics are not your forte either. You're worse than Trump (edited)

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

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> Yeah, that's how skewed their thinking has become, Pop. How anyone can

> take up for those intolerant to women rascals I'll never know. They need

> to arm all the women in Iran. LOL!

Pot, kettle.....the biggest offender in all of M.A. ^^

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What if he had just stood by and done nothing and acted afraid to do anything as it seems you would do...i wasn't raised to back up from anybody and i sure am glad trump was raised tge same way...you will stay out of a fight quicker by standing up for yourself than bowing down and kissing ass like those in the past.maybe you were raised different with a sheltered life and afraid to stand up for yourself but i'm not ..go for if they want a fight ..

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Tump and his family are literally shaking hands on tv with the people who funded 9/11. He and his staff support despots and dictatorships, dismantles Democracy, and takes food from the poor to buy more weapons to fight unauthorized wars.

The United States is the most well funded terror organization, our country comfortably drops bombs and shoots missiles from drones 7,000 miles away, kills children and innocent civilians. I’m 100% against interventionism if we are not SOLVING a humanitarian crisis, typically we are sending people to fight and die in a war for resources we shouldn’t feel entitled to. I am not anti-military, but I am against imperialism.

Socialist democracy isn’t evil, you that doesn’t support progressive movements are. You wish for monarchy when it was our country that fought so hard to break away from the crown. DEMOCRACY IS DEAD AND TRUMP AND HIS MONEY CULT KILLED IT. When a person can lose by millions of votes and still get the job was the t.o.d....

I think Bernie is the only one who can save us from losing everything to a climate catastrophe! We need drastic change in our policy and a curtail on fossil fuel emissions. I know that earth will survive, but the boomers will die before the full collapse of our eco systems. Not your lifetime not your problem right??

If you think a Moderate Centrists can take down the cult of trump you’re crazy. Bloomberg is literally a billionare republican trying time protect his own interests, buttiggeg is hanging out in zucks pocket and warren/klobachar would get walked on by Trump on the main stage. If it is anyone but Bernie I’ll be dammed.

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> What if he had just stood by and done nothing and acted afraid to do

> anything as it seems you would do...i wasn't raised to back up from

> anybody and i sure am glad trump was raised tge same way...you will

> stay out of a fight quicker by standing up for yourself than bowing down

> and kissing ass like those in the past.maybe you were raised different

> with a sheltered life and afraid to stand up for yourself but i'm not

> ..go for if they want a fight ..

Messages can be sent without making a fucking circus out of everything. Oh wait if I recall correctly Trump was all over the news about that time for the stripper or extramarital affairs. No better way to draw attention away from himself at the worlds expense for his own good.

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Worked came in the picture ..do you even know what that is ..lol.times weren't easy when i grew up ...i went to work in a flooring mill at night for 75 cents an hour when i was 17 and went to school during the day ,worked and paid in taxes until i was almost 70 ..i would still be but had to quit when i was diagnosed with cancer ..you are probably one of the people i have paid the way for all those years.. (edited)

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Pop, I told you...there's not a brain amongst them. Trying to talk common sense to a bunch of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome..it's a thang.LOL!) people is a waste of breath.

They actually want to return to bigger gov't and Socialism...……..lost all common sense.

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Damn daniel..talk about out of touch with reality ...wow ...i will say you might be right with the bernie thing but youshoukd wait to see who is going to take over for him .not sure he will make the term..i do really hope he does make it if elected but he does look haggered ..

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> Don Ohio Wrote:

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> Pop, I told you...there's not a brain amongst them. Trying to talk

> common sense to a bunch of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome..it's a

> thang.LOL!) people is a waste of breath.

>

> They actually want to return to bigger gov't and Socialism...……..lost

> st all common sense.

Wow! For once in all of M.A. history you find one person that agrees with you on a couple of things and you assume it's the majority. I hope I see you in hell. Really

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thats what i figured

i wanted and tried to give it the benefit but now I just feel sad for Don and his empty life.

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> live ɘvil Wrote:

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> > Pops Peds Wrote:

>

> > -------------------------------------------------------

>

> > What if he had just stood by and done nothing and acted afraid to do

>

> > anything as it seems you would do...i wasn't raised to back up from

>

> > anybody and i sure am glad trump was raised tge same way...you will

>

> > stay out of a fight quicker by standing up for yourself than bowing

> down

>

> > and kissing ass like those in the past.maybe you were raised different

>

> > with a sheltered life and afraid to stand up for yourself but i'm not

>

> > ..go for if they want a fight ..

>

> Messages can be sent without making a fucking circus out of everything.

> Oh wait if I recall correctly Trump was all over the news about that

> time for the stripper or extramarital affairs. No better way to draw

> attention away from himself at the worlds expense for his own good.

I'll volunteer to buy you a one way ticket to go live with the sorry bastards if you promise never to come back if you're that much pissed about it and in love with them.

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Out of touch? Deranged? Pissed? I’d argue I am none of the above. You should be ashamed to call yourselves Americans.

Also cable news is literally just a distraction to incite fear and anger in order to take the spotlight off the people really fucking you over.

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Maybe therapy for you would help you get back to reality Daniel..i'll pray for your safe return .

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> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> Out of touch? Deranged? Pissed? I’d argue I am none of the above. You

> should be ashamed to call yourselves Americans.

>

> Also cable news is literally just a distraction to incite fear and anger

> in order to take the spotlight off the people really fucking you over.

Id agree with that. Anytime trumps ass is in the slinger he never fails to create a global circus elsewhere.

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> > live ɘvil Wrote:

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> > -------------------------------------------------------

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> > > Pops Peds Wrote:

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> >

>

> > > -------------------------------------------------------

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> >

>

> > > What if he had just stood by and done nothing and acted afraid to do

>

> >

>

> > > anything as it seems you would do...i wasn't raised to back up from

>

> >

>

> > > anybody and i sure am glad trump was raised tge same way...you will

>

> >

>

> > > stay out of a fight quicker by standing up for yourself than bowing

>

> > down

>

> >

>

> > > and kissing ass like those in the past.maybe you were raised

> different

>

> >

>

> > > with a sheltered life and afraid to stand up for yourself but i'm

> not

>

> >

>

> > > ..go for if they want a fight ..

>

> >

>

> > Messages can be sent without making a fucking circus out of

> everything.

>

> > Oh wait if I recall correctly Trump was all over the news about that

>

> > time for the stripper or extramarital affairs. No better way to draw

>

> > attention away from himself at the worlds expense for his own good.

>

> I'll volunteer to buy you a one way ticket to go live with the sorry

> bastards if you promise never to come back if you're that much pissed

> about it and in love with them.

Buy it. Just be sure when you hand it to me I dont take more than that ticket with me. Id much rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints. Its really difficult to be afraid of something that one does not believe in. (edited)

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Maybe therapy for you would help you get back to reality Daniel..i'll

> pray for your safe return .

I like preying.

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Buy it. Just be sure when you hand it to me I dont take more than ticket with me.

Haha... i guess you're a pickpocket by profession ? Lol..or would that mean you would try to do bodily harm some way ..lol..you might want to do a little back ground check on me before you think about that even if i am 73

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> He took out a couple of terrorists before they came by and took out you

> or your neighbor....he might have saved your ass ...i guess you are

> going to try to convince me tgat they were upstanding people and an

> asset to mankind ...complete family men that worked hard every day for

> world peace ...anazing you take up for them

you can't even argue with the level of delusional fear that modern "conservatives" have bitten onto

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there's nothing that can be said. this argument is useless. i'm not going to convince ya to drop your selfish ignorance and short sighted self-defense, and you're not going to convince me that military spending and ballooning national debt to fund corporate interests and the ultra wealthy is more important than caring for other humans and the planet we live on.

The only thing these discussions serve is to remind me that I am disgusted by you, by your selfishness and your ignorance, your self-rigteousness, anti-intellectualism and disregard of fact, evidence and reasoning, it reminds me how disappointed I am in the state of our country that so many could still support a man so morally repulsive, regularly embarassing and self-serving.

I should probably avoid even commenting, just reading these makes it impossible to treat you with respect elsewhere, after witnessing your true motives, smug disregard of fact and passive tolerance to greed and evil. I really wish I could undo this disaster of a presidency if for no other reason than to allow me to have continued pretending that so many of the people in this country and even on this forum are decent reasonable caring human beings.

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^ Well said, especially the last paragraph, I have always said that Trump does not scare me as much as the fact so many are "for" his kind of behavior, THAT is terrifying.

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Wow ...ok...maybe we can get somewhere this way...what would have been your solutions to the problems i mentioned earlier ...how would you have handled each one ... 1 ..border crisis 2..trade practices set in place by other presidents 3..nucular threat of china and iran..4..terrorists that have before and plans to do harm to americans in the future....just be civil and lay out what you would have done in these situations to improve things for the us

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Wow ...ok...maybe we can get somewhere this way...what would have been

> your solutions to the problems i mentioned earlier ...how would you have

> handled each one ... 1 ..border crisis 2..trade practices set in place

> by other presidents 3..nucular threat of china and iran..4..terrorists

> that have before and plans to do harm to americans in the future....just

> be civil and lay out what you would have done in these situations to

> improve things for the us

(1)They don't believe in the border crisis, so they'd do nothing.Come on in, MS 13 !!

(2)They think America is evil and SHOULD pay out the nose on tariffs to France, Canada, and Mexico AND CHINA. So, nothing again. LOL!

(3) They don't care a whit about other nuclear countries. They'd trust China and Iran on their PROMISE that they had disarmed.

(4) It would be interesting to see if they even care about terrorism. Their plans will be laughable.

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Quote Dillon: ` I think Bernie is the only one who can save us from losing everything to a climate catastrophe!'

LOL! You need to be saved all right................but it's a different kind of salvation that will never be approved by the Socialist. Better think about WHO set this all in motion.

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> Pops Peds Wrote:

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> Wow ...ok...maybe we can get somewhere this way...what would have been

> your solutions to the problems i mentioned earlier ...how would you have

> handled each one ... 1 ..border crisis 2..trade practices set in place

> by other presidents 3..nucular threat of china and iran..4..terrorists

> that have before and plans to do harm to americans in the future....just

> be civil and lay out what you would have done in these situations to

> improve things for the us

What would I have done? in every example my answer would be similar -

assembled a team of people to address the scope of the situation and lay out a series of potential plans, then evaluated them based on the merits of risk versus reward. listened to experts and evidence and chosen solutions to best address the issues. This I have not seen whatsoever from a very callous and cavalier president whose main motivations appear to be upsetting his opposition and grandiose posturing and self-congratulation. He wants big flashy TV-worthy monuments and enrage progressives, not real solutions.

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specifically 1) a border problem? I am not an expert in this subject by any means. I think our legal immigration system is failing evidenced by extreme backlogs forcing many to approach alternate routes. I recognize there is a high cost to paying benefits to illegal immigrants but also that there are many benefits from their presence in our society especially when they become nationalized and participate in the workforce, and become moreso through supporting education. I personally cannot support treating people as lesser humans because they are not US citzens so I strongly distrust the family separation policies, inhumane and extended detention (without trial), the enormous cost of detention going to private prison firms, and what has clearly proven to be an ineffective and expensive wall. Further I oppose the rhetoric that suggests all immigrants are criminals and gang members, because it's false, misleading, and put plainly it's fucking stupid and prejudiced.

But really, it doesnt strongly affect you at all. It's important to recognize if you are affected or just offended. Don OH will never in his entire life suffer from a gang member who illegally crossed the border due to lack of a giant expensive wall. that is not a conceivable reality. However he and many trump fanatics appear convincedly offended that this inconceivable reality is something that needs to be stopped at any cost, even if it means gutting the protections of national parks, reallocation national resources, and even if it means putting up a wall that's a symbol of intolerance rather and not any real effective barrier.

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