> Thomas Davis Wrote:
> This doesn't sound like you've done much work on new or old cars.
> Things are more difficult to repair on a new car:
> Spark plugs on old cars are generally easy VS Stripping aluminum heads
> on new cars.
> A/C compressors and Evaporators are at least 20 to 30 times more
> difficult to replace on new cars than old cars.
> I've worked on Transverse mount modern sedans where the serpentine belt
> was so difficult to remove I might as well have been working on a
> New Cars and their computer controlled plastic gear actuated climate
> control systems. Programmers and blend door motors are new and break all
> the time and are hell to fix.
> HEAD GASKETS--- The old cars with cast iron heads won't blow them...New
> cars will due to prominent design flaws??? WTF? Manufacturers build this
> TRANSMISSION--- Not only are they much harder to remove and replace in a
> new car, but they can't be reliably rebuilt due to so many revisions and
> yearly updates. . You end up spending retard money on some shitty 40k
> limited warranty rebuild...but more often than not the shitmobile hits
> the junkyard.
> Meanwhile older cars have much easier to remove transmissions and they
> can be rebuilt fairly cheaply and often can even be upgraded as well.
> Fuel pumps on older cars were a matter of 4 bolts on the front of the
> engine vs. in tank fuel pump.. much easier on the old car.
> Also the vacuum lines on old cars may be long, but it is simple to learn
> their functions and where they all go... I've redone them on several
> older Cadillacs.
> I understand fuel injection is better, and I have no problem with it,
> but everything has to be serviceable and no plastic cam sensor
> interupter magnet holders!!
> Crank sensors suck on new cars and they end up costing the consumer
> Window motors and power seat components are really shitty on new cars
> and are often hell to fix. . meanwhile find an old car from the 1970s
> and more often than not the power window motors are original and still
> work!! The quality tanked in the 1980s.
> The fact that I can add to this list easily and keep going really makes
> me think you haven't done much auto work on both newer and older cars. .
I think this was pretty much the turning point, but we did make it 2 full pages of communally agreeing about the frustrating issues of repair and planned obsolescence of new cars while acknowledging the merits of safety and efficiency, before this tipped us toward the decay into condescending snobbery