> Don Ohio Wrote:
> Ramblers aren't one of the great old cars, but...…………….
> Trade yer Rambler.they weren't very good cars in the 60s.
AMC cars from the '60's were just as reliable and long-lived as cars made by the big 3, and the 195.6 OHV engine is a tank of an engine, not unlike the slant-6, or ford and chevy's inlines.
there was however a design flaw on the 195.6 OHV (which was basically a side-valve engine fitted with an OHV head). as long as the maintenance is performed, the engines will last for decades. one can remedy this flaw by replacing the head bolts with studs, thus making re-torquing the head unnecessary.
it's a common myth (mostly based on hearsay from folks who have never actually owned one, and who erroneously believe they know much more than they do about them in specific, and about cars in general) that ramblers weren't very good cars. their build quality was just as good as cars from the big 3, were done so on a much tighter budget, and in many ways, were light-years ahead.
they were the first US manufacturer to offer a dual-pot master cylinder, which was a pretty big safety innovation that even cadillacs didn't offer until later. nash (before the birth of AMC) was the first US car manufacturer to offer seat belts, and pioneered the unibody construction, later adopted by chrysler.
the 199/232 I-6s that replaced the 195.6 (which was a holdover from the nash days) are just as bullet-proof as a mopar slant-6s, ford 240/300s, or chevy 194/235s, and they're based on the same platform that jeep used for their 258/4.0 engines that ran forever up until the mid-90's.
while the big 3 were focused on making big gas-guzzlers (a term coined by then CEO george romney), AMC was making reliable, economy cars that routinely won the mobil economy run with their thrifty rambler americans. they faired better than their closest rival, the ford falcon.
the engines were all made in-house, the transmissions were made by borg-warner, and the manuals came with an optional overdrive (as did fords on a much smaller scale) until 1969, or shortly thereafter. rear diffs were made by dana.
that said, ramblers were in fact one of the great old cars. they just weren't (and still are not) appreciated as such.
the nice thing is that you can pick up a running '65 classic 2-door hardtop w/ a V-8 for about $2-3k. a running, comparable chevelle or satellite would run you upwards to $15K.
that worked out for me, as i got my wagon for about 1/4 of what i would have paid for a falcon or a chevy II.
i'm glad there are misinformed people who believe they know more than they actually do, and that erroneously label ramblers as not [being] very good cars. this allows the people who know better and who like them to be able to afford them.(edited)