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ephraim zimbalist jr /

1967 is one of the best years

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5 grand gives you a mint Super Beetle. Everyone wants the Beetles so Supers aren’t really appreciated.

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IF - and that's a very big if - you could find one, an early Chevy II with a 153 CID four-banger and Powerglide.

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Hows about an Azlk Moskvich?

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> Drew Willis Wrote:

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> 5 grand gives you a mint Super Beetle. Everyone wants the Beetles so

> Supers aren’t really appreciated.

They are nice too, so long as you rebuild the front end, the 50mph shake is annoying, nothing new bushings can't cure. :)

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> ephraim zimbalist jr Wrote:

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> 1967 is one of the best years

Yep, first year 12v! :)

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> > ephraim zimbalist jr Wrote:

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> Yep, first year 12v! :)

A lot of folk don't realise how significant that was...

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^ air cooled VW nut for a long time! 4 bay window transporter, 3 of them Westphalia conversions, one air cooled Vanagon, one convertible bug, and 3 or 4 bugs of various years and descriptions. Love them.

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> Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> ^ air cooled VW nut for a long time! 4 bay window transporter, 3 of them

> Westphalia conversions, one air cooled Vanagon, one convertible bug, and

> 3 or 4 bugs of various years and descriptions. Love them.

I had Type 1s and worked on the other models over the years. In the early '70s, I built a '60 Beetle with a tricked Porsche Super 90 (120 HP at the flywheel) that replaced the original 36er, out back. Used to surprise a lot of muscle car owners and annoy Porsche 911 and Lotus Elan drivers.

Now back to the Mopeds of Classic Cars, that is already in progress...

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> Peter Cooper Wrote:

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> > Stephen Keller Wrote:

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> > ^ air cooled VW nut for a long time! 4 bay window transporter, 3 of

> them

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> > Westphalia conversions, one air cooled Vanagon, one convertible bug,

> and

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> > 3 or 4 bugs of various years and descriptions. Love them.

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> I had Type 1s and worked on the other models over the years. In the

> early '70s, I built a '60 Beetle with a tricked Porsche Super 90 (120 HP

> at the flywheel) that replaced the original 36er, out back. Used to

> surprise a lot of muscle car owners and annoy Porsche 911 and Lotus Elan

> drivers.

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> Now back to the Mopeds of Classic Cars, that is already in progress...

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> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/1960-Ford-Falcon-4dr-Sed.jpg

Do they have a ute version of every car in nz like au has

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To answer your question, Jay, NZ has had a lot of Aussie models on sale, for generations, but almost no locally-made varieties as production models. A lot of stuff was converted into utes by owners, however.

Since this thread focuses primarily on US-made vehicles, perhaps the King Midget is the ultimate Moped of Classic Cars?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Midget (edited)

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I like them, driving one gives me a better experience than a normal beetle. Maybe it’s the improved front end.

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Those are almost none in the US. They’re even getting kinda rare in Russia, I think maybe they cannibalize one to keep a good classic one running.

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> Drew Willis Wrote:

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> I like them, driving one gives me a better experience than a normal

> beetle. Maybe it’s the improved front end.

Drives more like a "modern car" with the McPhearson struts, but it had it's issues too. I liked the older stearing wheels :) 2 spokes vs 4. Just me.

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I'm going to submit the Austin/Morris Mini.

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Lot of 70s/80s compact trucks. Not a lot of held value unless they are immaculate or a toyota, weird quirks like front wheel drive on the vw rabbit, very technically simple so lots of people did their own bad shade tree mechanic work. Even my 1990 ranger is basically four mopeds in a trench coat.

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If anything I'd say the VW bug is the Honda Cub of cars both cheap somewhat reliable easy to work on sold millions and both drivetrains were used or adapted to many different vehicles

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agree definitely with the citroen

especially cuz theres so many in 3rd world held together with whatever random parts are available - very moped.

less classic but i'd put a vote for the Peugeot 205, for being 1) tiny, 2) cheap, 3) common but easily identifiable and 4) distinctly born of a fuel-cost-conscious 80s.

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Definitely air-cooled VW's. They're the simplest car engines ever, nearly everything is interchangeable between engines and they were produced for ~70 years.

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Andrew Squiggman /

> Jarod V. Wrote:

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> Definitely air-cooled VW's. They're the simplest car engines ever,

> nearly everything is interchangeable between engines and they were

> produced for ~70 years.

Type 1 and 4, not interchangeable at all. Except some nuts

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This wonder of American engineering:

The Chevy Chevette. Same basic origin as the moped; the oil crisis. What do fat chicks, mopeds and the Chevette all have in common? You know ;)

The only difference is a good example of a Chevette probably wouldn't fetch the same price as a good moped!

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^ I can't recall the last time I saw one, are they still around in non rust-belt states?

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a-ko just got one I thought?

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Then there's this 21st Century take on a mid-20th Century microcar: https://www.mynobe.com

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The nobe seems like one of them things like the elio thing a whole lots hype one gets built then never heard from again

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I drove a Chevy chavette in 1983. Not sure the year of the car but the seat belts fastened as you closed the door.

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Andrew Squiggman /

> Boot 2Thehead Wrote:

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> I drove a Chevy chavette in 1983. Not sure the year of the car but the

> seat belts fastened as you closed the door.

They had that in 1988

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Must have been the later ones, my '76 Chevette, and '81 T-1000, had standard belts, always hated power seat belts. :/

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> Moped Jay Wrote:

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> The nobe seems like one of them things like the elio thing a whole lots

> hype one gets built then never heard from again

I know a few people who paid down payments for their Elios - I think they're still waiting for delivery..! The whole deal reminded me of the Dale three-wheeler from the 1970s, but not anywhere near as melodramatic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Century_Motor_Car_Corporation

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How about the Bede car/Litestar/Pulse or Autocycle or BD-200.

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