Re: Who has the fastest Puch !

Dirty30 Dillon /

> Rocco Taco Wrote:

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> 70 is slow! I’m sorry but I can hit definitely build a 70mph with all

> treats parts and I’m not the brights bulb on the shelf. I’m think more

> like high 80s for a pro tunner.

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> I’m so confused right now. Wow I expected way higher numbers.

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> Y’all Ever get out the the country side?

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> 70mph? Your sure about this?

You are a buffoon

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Are you aware of what wins resistance does above 55mph. Even with a full fairing it would take some power to be able to pull tall enough gears for 80 mph possible.

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> Dirty30 Dillon Wrote:

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> > Rocco Taco Wrote:

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> > 70 is slow! I’m sorry but I can hit definitely build a 70mph with all

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> > treats parts and I’m not the brights bulb on the shelf. I’m think more

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> > like high 80s for a pro tunner.

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> > I’m so confused right now. Wow I expected way higher numbers.

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> > Y’all Ever get out the the country side?

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> > 70mph? Your sure about this?

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> You are a buffoon

I expected more out of you dirty Dillion, I’m sorry. I’m usually 10mph slower, Im just trying to figure out how fast I can go on my moped. Be nice man come on

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> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> Are you aware of what wins resistance does above 55mph. Even with a full

> fairing it would take some power to be able to pull tall enough gears

> for 80 mph possible.

Wins resistance?

Dillion can you spell check this.

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S and d are right next to each other on a keyboard. Woops I made a mistake, but you know what the I’m trying to say, don’t try act smart.

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> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> S and d are right next to each other on a keyboard. Woops I made a

> mistake, but you know what the I’m trying to say, don’t try act smart.

Okay I’ll stop

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Re: Who has the fastest Puch !

Probably Fred /

> Daniel '' Wrote:

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> Are you aware of what wins resistance does above 55mph. Even with a full

> fairing it would take some power to be able to pull tall enough gears

> for 80 mph possible.

I don’t like being in a tuck, I sit up straight, my bikes have high bars and man you can feel a lot of wind at 55+mph

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You can hear the wind when hitting that 55 mph speed on this crap video on that same bike, when the wind hit I almost dropped phone and wiped out that’s why the video ended so soon, it’s bit faster and safer with both hands on handlebars haha,

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Dirty30 Dillon /

> Rocco Taco Wrote:

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> I expected more out of you dirty Dillion, I’m sorry. I’m usually 10mph

> slower, Im just trying to figure out how fast I can go on my moped. Be

> nice man come on

I don't think you very often take time to comprehend anything before professing to be knowledgeable about said thing.

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I'm not going to sit here and do the math, but I'm pretty sure the power requirement basically doubles to go from 60 to 80.

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when i first got into mopeds, i was all about puchs. now i hate them. they're still like, "good mopeds," but variators man. i'm just too big for e50. if an e50 has good taeoff, something inside it is breaking. my za50 was great, but i'm scared to rebuild it. i've rebuilt several a35s, but that za just has too many parts. once you know the true story about magnums they're lame as fuck. after a dozen or more years of mopeds, i'm all about tomos and vespa. i had french bikes, and derbis too. give me a 40mph ciao over all that crap.

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> Dirty30 Dillon Wrote:

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> > Rocco Taco Wrote:

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> > I expected more out of you dirty Dillion, I’m sorry. I’m usually 10mph

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> > slower, Im just trying to figure out how fast I can go on my moped. Be

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> > nice man come on

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> I don't think you very often take time to comprehend anything before

> professing to be knowledgeable about said thing.

Knowledgeable I’m not, I just copy what you do.

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Dirty30 Dillon /

> Rocco Taco Wrote:

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> Knowledgeable I’m not, I just copy what you do.

Right.

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I commute in daily traffic, and having owned and commuted on both kitted SS wet clutch bikes and DV, will also take a 45mph DV bike everyday, all day, over a "furiously-pedaling off the line" Puch that can theoretically go 55mph in a straight line, or needs a 24mm carburetor to get decent pull off the line with a 15-20 mile range on a tank.

> mit mortso Wrote:

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> when i first got into mopeds, i was all about puchs. now i hate them.

> they're still like, "good mopeds," but variators man. i'm just too big

> for e50. if an e50 has good taeoff, something inside it is breaking. my

> za50 was great, but i'm scared to rebuild it. i've rebuilt several a35s,

> but that za just has too many parts. once you know the true story about

> magnums they're lame as fuck. after a dozen or more years of mopeds, i'm

> all about tomos and vespa. i had french bikes, and derbis too. give me a

> 40mph ciao over all that crap.

Re: Who has the fastest Puch !

Back in the day (around 2010ish iirc) my buddy had a Polini'd E50 Maxi with a Simonini pipe that hit at least high 50's. Even with nice forks and tires it was totally sketch at those speeds.

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Probably Fred /

> Jarod V. Wrote:

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> Back in the day (around 2010ish iirc) my buddy had a Polini'd E50 Maxi

> with a Simonini pipe that hit at least high 50's. Even with nice forks

> and tires it was totally sketch at those speeds.

Why Over-rev or overheat a bike because you don’t know how to tune it!

Why not just tune it right and run it for a decade or two with just a 15 mm carb!

Could you imagine driving for 4 or five hours, even all all day or all all year with a bike that is not exploding like the bike in my video! That runs perfect right now !

I can’t believe these people that post here know nothing about anything reliable transportation yet could keep up with traffic!

They must Google everything!

I’ve googled like four or 5 things in my life,

I learned everything from books and experience! these young folk nowadays including my offspring are dumb as a box of rocks because they Google everything which is a bias!

I’m so glad I live in the era I do!

I actually wish I was born 10 years earlier because nowadays these people are nutcases!

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Im really confused. I built a treat’s reed kit, , treats cdi party (with Yamaha jog cdi box), 4 petal maloiss reeds, 19mm phbg, uncased matched with a restricted sidebleed hitting a lil over 50mph and the tune is super soft and will go all day. And I’m not even trying and I’m using some junk parts

You guys are messing with us. 60mph sounds more like it.

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> Overpriced Parts Wrote:

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> I’ve googled like four or 5 things in my life,

Ha. I might Google that many before lunch . I'm retired and love learning new stuff .

Sure there's a lot of crap I have to sift through , but , at least I find interesting things , often . Google is just like any other tool . Use it correctly and you'll do a better job .

Or , don't and let someone else get 'paid' . Heck , it was Google that helped me find this very entertaining site . ;)

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Mine has done over 60mph set up was done by tomahawk mopeds in Cali.

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Everybody has the fastest Puch, just ask 'em.

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> Overpriced Parts Wrote:

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> > Jarod V. Wrote:

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> > Back in the day (around 2010ish iirc) my buddy had a Polini'd E50 Maxi

>

> > with a Simonini pipe that hit at least high 50's. Even with nice forks

>

> > and tires it was totally sketch at those speeds.

>

> Why Over-rev or overheat a bike because you don’t know how to tune it!

>

> Why not just tune it right and run it for a decade or two with just a

> a 15 mm carb!

>

>

>

> Could you imagine driving for 4 or five hours, even all all day or all

> l all year with a bike that is not exploding like the bike in my video!

> That runs perfect right now !

>

> I can’t believe these people that post here know nothing about anything

> reliable transportation yet could keep up with traffic!

>

> They must Google everything!

>

> I’ve googled like four or 5 things in my life,

>

> I learned everything from books and experience! these young folk

> k nowadays including my offspring are dumb as a box of rocks because

> they Google everything which is a bias!

>

> I’m so glad I live in the era I do!

>

> I actually wish I was born 10 years earlier because nowadays these

> people are nutcases!

It works becuase if everyone has the same answer then it’s the “correct one”.

It’s not like everything they taught you at school was correct. they just thought it was correct at that time and gave you a passing grade for knowing their bullshit.

To understand something and to know something is two different things. (edited)

Re: Who has the fastest Puch !

Douglas Binder /

Couple of things. First power required is the cube of the speed so to go from 60 to 80 would require that the power increases 2.37 times. Second, there is no replacement for displacement. Change nothing but the the bore (assuming the rest of the system, carb, pipe, etc is up to the task) from 50cc to 80cc and you should see 1.6 times the power. So when you ask who has the fastest Puch, you might want to qualify the displacement.

When I built my land speed racing E50, I replaced the forks with Honda XR80 forks and custom made the swing arm. The stock frame would be dangerous at these speeds. Brakes don't matter at a LSR event but I would want to seriously beef up the stock brakes if you are going fast on the road. For street use, I agree with some of the comments about building a reliable 45mph machine.

Be safe out there.

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after removing the intake restrictor, and doing intake porting. biggest front sprocket that fit. 50cc's got me 45mph downhill. much happier with my current air cooled antique 360cc 4t beater. but at 15 a 45mph puch maxi was a game changer. If I only had game at 15. I did have metal shop at 15. milled the shit out of the head. needed 93 octane. was an amazing hill climber. I also bought the smallest front sprocket.

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45 on a puch maxi. removed the restrictor and ported the intake. biggest front sprocket. 50cc.

Re: Who has the fastest Puch !

Scottie Hartpence /

I don't have the fastest puch

i have this maxi and i put snowflakes on for better braking 90MM pads

i think we are all silly i do not feel safe on the maxi it is kind of wobbly

i am rebuilding the rear swing arm with a newer one with a lock in it

new bolts and rubber bushing

it had 380 miles on it when i got it

i have a 70cc kit on it Arisal/bing clone15 82 jet/boss pipe/ factory air filter

and i cut it up to let more air in ,i chokes at 45mph,18/45 gears.

still tuning it . no filter it is better it need air

i have a 5 star with a polini kit 47mm(80cc) and that does 55/60+

but it feels solid to the ground with 2.75 rear tire,Hutchinson,and 2.25 front GP1 tires

if you guys do 80 that is cool,i disagree get a motorcycle ,ilive down the shore in New Jersey and there is nothing cooler when someone laughs at you and you just pull away and dust their ass.

enjoy everyone

Scottie out :)

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Thank you so much for this thread as Im gonna learn a lot from it. I Have a Puch Maxi with a Polini and a Cali sidebleed, 15:15. I never GPS'd yet but it starts pulling real hard when i get to 25-30. I still puss out and let off the throttle early.

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Guys,

I thought I'd sign in for the first time and see if I could revive this 8-month-dormant thread, which I stumbled across while trying to find a reliable 50 MPH mechanical speedometer for my 70cc 1978 Sears Free Spirit, Puch E50, one of my three mopeds. I've had to reject a succession of Treatland speedos that did not work or last, although the folks there make a special effort to be helpful, and usually are.

I also wanted to add my thoughts on who has the fastest Puch. For me, the real question would be, "Who has the most healthy brain?" My last and best airplane cruised at about 200 MPH, and in the air, 100 MPH, 200, or 350 are all about the same. So it was not unsafe. I've also had a bunch of fast motorcycles, but I've never been so foolish as to operate one above 100 MPH, even if it can. At that speed, it feels like you have almost no contact with the road; you are a projectile, with few options except easing off the throttle. I've loved my 1100 cc Yamaha Virago road bike for 27 years, but hold it to 75 or well below. It's about fun, not suicide.

Which gets us to mopeds. My strong opinion is that anybody who even wants to run a 100-pound two-wheeler above 50 MPH is a rather foolish and possibly inexperienced person, and is perhaps not long for this world. I've converted two of my three mopeds to 70cc and am finishing up the third engine. The first two are fast, and I have put a lot of miles on them. Both do about an honest 50, but it does not feel safe. The feeling reminds me of riding a much heavier motorcycle at 100 MPH. Stability is zilch.

Again in my opinion, the best reason for hopping up a moped above 50cc is that it actually enhances safety, it doesn't detract from it. Having a little more power, not a lot, makes it easier to blend in with auto traffic, in rural smaller towns, like the one in which I live. Being able to keep up with traffic, and not impede it, is a wonderful thing. Auto drivers don't become angry and try to run you off the road, or tail gate you, because they can't, without breaking a speed limit. I've survived for a long time, and sometimes in a risky occupation, so it made me appreciate the attractiveness of continuing to be around. Running an almost weightless moped at 60 MPH is not the way to do it. Please guys, don't even try. But if you do, and succeed, please don't advertise your bad judgement by bragging about it. You're bound to encourage somebody with even worse judgement to try to top you, and get killed.

But again, top speed is not a good reason for boosting moped power. It's safety, and just a little bit more horsepower really does make your light ped safer, if you just hold it down responsibly, speedwise. I like 35 - 40 MPH in the Ohio countryside, just enjoying the sights and smells. It feels right. I don't feel like the tiny engine is about to blow up, or that if I hit an unseen bump, I and the 95-pound bicycle will be bounced into the ditch and extinguished.

Be careful, while enjoying the endless fun these toys can give you, way into your second childhood. I'll bet I'm way ahead of all of you on that. I tell people that I don't plan on dying anytime soon, but if I do, it will probably be falling off a motorcycle at age 95.

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> Phil Liechty wrote:

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> Please guys, don't even try.

This sounds like a dare.

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> Mitch Mills wrote:

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> This sounds like a dare.

You read all that and think that's a dare ? Amazing .

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> Phil Liechty wrote:

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Too Long Didn’t Read, yeah I’ve done 60 and it’s fucking fun. Keep going fast and eating ass people

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